• molave ( mo_lave@reddthat.com ) 
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      I have the same apprehension, but anime is a medium. There’s a lot of disgusting books and Western movies around, and we don’t shame people for liking books and Western movies.

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        The problem with anime is that some of the most popular ones suffer from the issues described in the meme. Take death note for example, immensely popular. But the female characters are mere props with one massively problematic female character’s infatuation with the lead driving half the show. It’s just unwatchable if you don’t like that kind of thing.

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          Agreed.

          Everyone has a comfort level and/or tolerance on what they can watch. Generally speaking, they’re free to look away from content that they’re uncomfortable, like the aforementioned example of Death Note with how the women are portrayed there. I have my own categories of content that I’m too uncomfortable to watch, and I’m sure it’s different from what you find uncomfortable.

          Again, it’s not exclusive to anime. Personally, I find James Bond movies’ (massively popular with quite the cultural cache) portrayals of women more problematic if applied to real life, but it’s a work of fiction and we’re supposed to know better. My comfort level does not preclude me from watching those as well as Death Note, nor I’m supposed to assume watchers and fans of those endorse all the themes involved in there.

          Some critical thinking from us should be employed as we watch those things especially if sensitive themes are included. Where does it lie in the prescriptive vs. descriptive writing spectrum? Is it meant to teach the audience that something is good or bad (the should/shouldn’t)? Does it describe a particular situation within the internally-consistent rules of the in-universe world (the what, where, when, how, and why)? etc. This applies regardless of the medium.

      • True. To me, it’s the popular perception of anime that’s the problem. Most people associate it with the op’s topics, even if that’s not everything. There’s some critical point where there’s enough weird stuff that it gets rounded up into “all anime is weird”.

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      I honestly think it’s just a good reason to always qualify your preferences. There are dozens of anime for which, if the conversation turned to that anime specifically, or even a major theme, I’d happily talk about it. But most of it really is complete trash. Honestly you can say that about most media which isn’t “Christopher Nolan films.”

      Also, that’s not to say complete trash can’t be entertaining or have some marginal value. But anime does have a serious problem with sexualizing children, and that definitely keeps it at arms length for me as a general topic.

  • Snow White with the Red Hair is my favorite hidden gem.

    • main character is a strong, independent, brilliant woman. She isn’t abrasive or obnoxious, just confident in who she is. Her success in the story is entirely from her own efforts.
    • love interest is a well rounded character, not an Everyman stand in. His own strengths and weaknesses are plot relevant and he grows independently of the mc.
    • the romance progresses at a steady pace and isn’t a will they/won’t they for two seasons.
    • romance is one of many plot lines, not the only one. It’s also slice of life and medieval politics.
    • and of course, everyone’s adults. Everyone has normal body proportions and healthy personalities.
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    Gonna go through my mal and find all the ones I’ve seen. “?” means I’m not 100% sure:

    • 5 cm/s
    • place further than the universe
    • a silent voice
    • aldanoah zero?
    • Another?
    • AOT
    • baby steps?
    • blood blockade battlefront?
    • bocchi the rock
    • carole and tuesday
    • death parade
    • deca-dence
    • erased
    • fmab
    • golden time
    • grave of the fireflies
    • great pretender
    • haikyu
    • Howl’s moving castle
    • I can’t understand what my husband is saying
    • i want to eat your pancreas?
    • japan sinks 2020
    • jojo (except one episode)
    • jujutsu kaisen? (Only seen first season)
    • k-on?
    • kaiji
    • keep your hands off eizouken
    • kingdom
    • kuroko’s basketball
    • link click
    • made in abyss? (Haven’t seen the latest season)
    • magi?
    • 3-gatsu no lion
    • megalo box
    • mob psycho 100
    • nichijou
    • odd taxi
    • patema inverted?
    • ping pong the animation
    • psycho pass
    • ranking of kings
    • revenger?
    • sk8 the infinity
    • spirited away
    • spy x fam
    • star wars visions?
    • steins gate?
    • the boy and the beast?
    • saiki?
    • promised neverland (just watch s1 and pretend that’s the end of the story. Never watch s2)
    • the way of the househusband
    • tonikawa?
    • tsuredure children?
    • vinland saga
    • violet evergarden
    • vivy
    • weathering with you
    • wolf children
    • Wotakoi
    • yona of the dawn
    • your lie in april?
    • your name
    • yowamushi pedal? (only seen the first few seasons)
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      Made in Abyss season one has that one scene where the main, underaged character is suspended naked in public as a punishment. I’ve heard that there are a few other questionable moments in the manga.

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      K-On! is pretty safe. mostly just a wholesome slice-of-life to vibe to.

      i’m pondering wether i should argue for Re:Zero on the list or nah. it does feature some very bad relationships caused by the protagonist, but it isn’t pictured as anything positive… actually it’s pretty debatable in some scenes involving the character Rem, or the very last episode of season 1.

      i’d rather keep my distance from No Game No Life though

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      Death parade is such a beautiful commentary on death and what it means to be alive, while speaking on the complexity of being simple emotional creatures with complex motivations.

      It’s what I think makes a good anime. A story bigger or wilder than someone could tell simply through text that manages to get the audience a new feeling or perspective.

      But that same thought process is exactly why for every death parade we get at least 1 Eromanga Sensei. When throwing everything against that proverbial wall you get some wild shit too.

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    Here’s some genre keywords for a start:

    Adult Cast

    Seinen/Josei

    Chances are if those shows involve underage sexualization/unhealthy relationships, it doesn’t endorse them.

    Edit: Also look for anime with kids as target audiences, they should have none of those things. On further introspection, that sums up to “look for shows that ain’t shounen or shoujo” lol.

  • Why am I not seeing One Piece in here? It sexualizes nami and Robin but they are both over 18. There aren’t really relationships at all in the show unless you count boa hancock but that’s pretty tame and not a relationship

    • Vivi is 16 before the time skip and the guys try to spy on her in the bath. Rebecca is 16 and wears a chainmail bikini for an entire arc. Shirahoshi is 16 and wears a bikini top while a creepy guy stalks her for an entire arc.

    • Polar bear cafe was pretty good. Cat soup too, but that is only one short. Also I like the old ones like Devilman (1970s not reboot), Mazinger Z (ROCKETU PUNCH!), Galaxy Express 999, etc. The Batman Ninja thing (2018) was surprisingly good (and I’m sick of superheros!), man I know I have more but I’m blanking, I may come add more later.

      Oh! Hare and Guu!