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§ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ ( shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml )  to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago

The US is Fanning the Flames of War with China

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§ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ ( shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml )  to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago
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actions intensify the danger of nuclear war in the Asia-Pacific.
  • blazera ( blazera@kbin.social ) 
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    Taiwan is a sovereign nation

    • TomHardy ( TomHardy@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Hogwarts School of Witchcraft is a boarding school for wizards.

      Same energy in this statement.

      • blazera ( blazera@kbin.social ) 
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        Your crowd loves strawmen so much.

        • TomHardy ( TomHardy@lemmy.ml ) 
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          I mean, you posted provably false bs. How can I not troll? Even the state on Taiwan claims Taiwan is only a region of a country, and not a nation lmao

          • Deceptichum ( Deceptichum@kbin.social ) 
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            25% of Taiwanese want independence.

            6.8% of Taiwanese want to join China.

            The others want things to stay the same, I.e functionally independent.

            But hey let’s ignore the will of the people and impose imperialist rhetoric on why they don’t deserve self-determination.

            • queermunist she/her ( queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 
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              25% isn’t the will of the people lol

              • Deceptichum ( Deceptichum@kbin.social ) 
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                The 6.8% not wanting to be independent is the telling part.

                Everyone else either wants to openly call themselves independent on carry on as they are in already being functionally independent.

                tl;dr: No one wants to be part of China or not independent.

                • queermunist she/her ( queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 
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                  The vast majority of people want things to stay the same. Both independence and reintegration are very small minorities.

                  What that tells me is China has a lot of work to do to entice Taiwan. That’s it.

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                    1/4 is not very small.

                    Furthermore keeping things the same is to be independent or do you think China currently controls what they do?

                    After the disaster of HK, Taiwan is never going to join China.

                  • RustledTeapot ( RustledTeapot@kbin.social ) 
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                    It tells me that most people prefer an eternal cold war to escalating to a hot war. If China backed off and made it clear they would not attack, those numbers would change.

            • TomHardy ( TomHardy@lemmy.ml ) 
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              What are you even talking about? The original commenter began trolling by on purpose stating some basic fact even these people whose will you support would say is not true. There is no constitution or state that calls itself Taiwan.

              • Deceptichum ( Deceptichum@kbin.social ) 
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                I’m talking about Taiwanese calling themselves an independent country. They are because the people living there consider themselves as such.

                The government cannot come out and say it because they will be invaded if they break the status quo.

                Hence we have to look at the will of the people to determine such things and that proves you wrong.

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                  Yes I know what you mean, but see, there is ROC whose contitution currenlty says Taiwan is only a region, and the PRC, who says the same. This is what I adressed before. And besides, by the poll you mention, that even undermines it, as when the rest supports things stay the same, means the majority supports Taiwan is a part of ROC.

                  • cnnrduncan ( cnnrduncan@beehaw.org ) 
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                    Oh okay so the RoC is an independent country and the PRC is just a rebellious region of the legitimate Chinese government then?

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            Well at least you admit to trolling.

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