My friend and I were discussing this over the weekend. Games are inherently different than movies, books, and music. They’re tied to specific hardware and operating systems that may not be available anymore.
I argue that if a game is no longer legally purchasable from the publishers or developer, it should be legally permitted to pirate it. Even EA agrees! They do not pursue copyright claims against LOTR games, as they lost the publishing license from New Line Cinemas years ago.
- Haui ( @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de ) English27•1 year ago
It should be the same for everything: if an ip is no longer used, it should be in the public domain. Therefore, a company holding said IP is forced to use it (as in selling copies) or give it up.
Yes. I can imagine a middle-ground of copyright. If the IP is still being used, it enters the public domain on the regular schedule. But if it’s abandoned, it enters earlier… perhaps after 5-10 years of non-use.
- Haui ( @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•1 year ago
Honestly, in our fast moving world, I‘d do like a year. If nothing gets announced or release, you‘re done.
Example, you take a book, game or song from the market because you want people to be unable to buy it before you release the successor. Then you delay the successor for 5 yrs. Boom, public domain.
- Sentinian ( @Sentinian@lemmy.one ) English10•1 year ago
Its very easy to play the older AC games. Download a rom/iso and emulator
This is exactly why emulation is a needed thing.
- eltimablo ( @eltimablo@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
Shortly before launch, I set up AC4A on a PS3 emulator and it literally could not have been easier.
- EvaUnit02 ( @EvaUnit02@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
Well, except for the fact that all four PS3 AC games are listed as “Ingame” on the RPCS3 compatability list.
- eltimablo ( @eltimablo@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
Those ratings are user-reported and most are several years out of date. I played 4A from beginning to end without any issues.
- Pxtl ( @Pxtl@lemmy.ca ) English4•1 year ago
If you’re trying to do it legally, you can easily to rip your own ps1 games with a drive bay. Haven’t tried it on PS2 or ps3 games. And ps1 emulation runs amazing on phones and raspberry pis.
So my ps1 emulation collection is pretty legit.
We shall not speak of the other consoles.
- sculd ( @sculd@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
haha…I play AC3 Last Raven on my PSP Its going to break my hand
- Phanatik ( @Phanatik@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
I’ve been ripping PS3 games for a little while now. I’ve recently bought some Dynasty Warriors Gundam games from Japan which I’m dumping at the moment.
Armoured Core has especially been in a thorn in my side. I’ve got 4 and 5 but still trying to acquire For Answer and Verdict Day. They’re extremely hard to come across. I haven’t looked at the PS2 games but I’m sure I could find those for cheap. Super easy to rip with a standard Disk Drive.
- eltimablo ( @eltimablo@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
I’ve got a rip of 4A if you want it. Might even have my old copy for 360 around here somewhere if you’d prefer that.
- Phanatik ( @Phanatik@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
That’s very kind of you. I prefer physical CDs that I can redump if anything gets messed up. Haven’t seen what I need to dump 360 games but I can give it a go.
- SenorBolsa ( @SenorBolsa@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
360 games require original hardware unless there’s been some breakthrough recently. They use their own kinda weird dual layer DVD format.
- Phanatik ( @Phanatik@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
Well shit. I think I’m close to being done with the PS3 exclusives so the 360 is an option.
- SenorBolsa ( @SenorBolsa@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
Yeah you can get drives that can rip them with third party firmware installed, (I have drives with custom firmware for other things) but the cheapest way is to just use an actual Xbox 360. Doesn’t need to be modded, Xenia can just use an installed game, so you just install the game to a flash drive then you can move it to your PC and run it from there.
- Pxtl ( @Pxtl@lemmy.ca ) English1•1 year ago
I’m curious, can a standard Blu-ray drive on a PC rip PS3 games? Or do you need special hardware? I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to rip PS1 games.
- Phanatik ( @Phanatik@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
I’ve read that you can use a Blue-Ray drive. The RPCS3 website has a proper guide on it though I haven’t tried it. I jailbroke my PS3 (not fully because it’s one of the 320GB models) and use that with FileZilla to dump games over the internet onto my PC.