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Pxtl ( Pxtl@lemmy.ca )  to Canada@lemmy.caEnglish · 3 years ago

Anti-LGTBQ “Million March For Children” outnumbered by “Billion March For Not Being Bigots”

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Anti-LGTBQ “Million March For Children” outnumbered by “Billion March For Not Being Bigots”

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  • Showroom7561 ( Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ) 
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    If you’re ever at an anti-LGBTQ march “for the children”, ask these bigots why they aren’t marching against the sexual exploitation of children in local parishes.

    They will stutter on their words, I guarantee. Seeing this strategy in action is hilarious and highly effective!

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      I’ve asked this question several times.

      Name one drag queen who has ever been convicted of grooming and sexually abusing children.

      I said to someone once, "There are branches of several international organizations in town that have a centuries old well documented history of grooming and sexually abusing millions of children worldwide then hiding the abuse and moving the abusers to other locations so that they can continue to groom and sexually abuse children. These are the same organizations that are telling you that drag queens are the problem. Why aren’t you protesting them? "

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        That’s a bold but risky move, I wouldn’t bet the argument on someone having dug up some obscure examples. The set of people in drag has to contain at least one, and using a ‘gotcha’ like that could backfire.

        But you’re right, they do seem exceedingly rare. Like, weirdly rare compared to the general population, even.

        • MapleEngineer ( MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca ) 
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          I’ll give them a list of 1,000 clergy who have been convicted and ask them for the name of another drag queen who had been. They will run out of drag queens long before I run out of thousands of clergy.

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            100%

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    • m0darn ( m0darn@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I’d like to see SOGI education advocates more explicitly frame their efforts as anti suicide initiatives.

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      • Pxtl ( Pxtl@lemmy.ca ) OP
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        Letting the kids be who they are, and letting them know that certain minorities exist is not grooming them.

        However, acting like parents own their kids is.

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          Bigots really want to pretend that some teenager discovering that they are gay or trans is a result of some massive conspiracy rather than, you know, they just being gay or trans.

          They call it “grooming” when LGBT people simple exist in society where people might notice them, and they want to make such a scandal that people don’t even think what is the opposite of that which they want.

          • pbjamm ( pbjamm@beehaw.org ) 
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            Also teens are learning who it is they are and are going to try out all kinds of identities and activities til they find ones that fit. For some that includes their sexuality. No one is forcing kids to try being gay or trans, just not judging them for the curiosity. Some of those kids will find out that they are more comfortable that way, some will find out it is not really for them. C’est la vie.

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        Seek medical help I think you’re having a stroke with that comment.

        Unless there is a missing /s there somewhere.

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        Only the rabid right would say batshit crazy crap like that.

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        Oh cool someone else who has no idea what they’re talking about! I’m in the education industry and work closely with 7 schools in my local district. No one is grooming or indoctrinating children, those are conservative buzz words. They’re simply teaching the kids that if they don’t feel like they fit the gender norms that it’s okay.

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        Where’s the block button on this thing…

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    The Vancouver protest did well, outnumbering the assfaces by quite a bit. Multiples, maybe 5:1. Hard to tell.

    Their talking points were incoherent and inconsistent. One person will tell you that they only care about teaching children and have nothing against trans people, and the next person will start screaming THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS.

    Their chant game was absolute shit, they clearly hadn’t workshopped for cadence or pithiness.

    Lots of American politics mixed in, lots of attempts to shame the crowd about “free speech”, they got a couple kids up to scream at the crowd.

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      As someone from the UK, it always makes me laugh when people try and claim free speech as if we have the constitution here because they’ve watched too many yank grifters online.

      • DragonTypeWyvern ( DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ) 
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        Yeah, it sucks but the literal peasant class in your monarchy doesn’t have actual rights.

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          We do have rights, they’re enshrined in the European Convention on Human Rights. We just don’t have an unfettered right to free speech that makes us have to accept Nazis like the US does.

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            Just the ones that allow Germans to lock up climate protestors for future crimes, or Brits for insulting their monarch~

            • pinkdrunkenelephants ( pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz ) 
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              Dude, governors are banning books en masse over here in the good ol’ land of the free. Laws were never the problem. People always were.

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                No, they aren’t. They can not stop people from making or purchasing those books.

                They’re removing them from state funded programs but that’s a much different thing.

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                  Ohh, yes they are. Go look it up and actually research it honestly instead of looking for holes to win an argument. It’s happening here, especially in certain southern states, and it’s bad. Some counties even shut down whole libraries specifically to get around anti-censorship protections we have here.

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    The protest in Nanaimo today saw a larger attendance by the Pro-SOGI side. We had better flags and banners. We took the high ground with our numbers.

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      Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI), for those not familiar with the term.

      .

      That said, the rainbow flag crowd far outnumbered the dogwhistling “parents rights” crowd in Winnipeg today. And I’m hearing similar in many other cities.

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        Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI)

        Thanks for the de-reference on the jargon. I’m not in a spot where I use an initialism like that enough to retain it.

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        I’m so happy to see this acronym catching on. I think it’s much more inclusive. I actually recall suggesting it to someone like 5 years ago, although I think it should technically be SOGIM with the M standing for minorities. So if you’re talking about taking to school kids about crushes, or what they feel it means to be a boy, that’s SOGI education (inclusive of cis het) while members of the lgbtqia2s+ community would be SOGIM.

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        That’s good to hear. I was out for a walk at lunch and went past the Legislature. From my vantage I could only make out the nutters, which was depressing. I didn’t have time to really investigate.

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      This is a weird way to say it, but if I understand correctly a win for tolerance and acceptance, in which case I salute you!

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      That’s good to hear! Up Island we were outnumbered 4:1.

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    “Billion March For Not Being Bigots” would be an awesome name for a counter protest

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    Bigots are always a small group with outsized volume. Just like mal-adjusted chihuahuas. And like chihuahuas suffering ‘little dog syndrome’, when they try to bite, they can be punted across the room with prejudice.

    (Note that I do not condone kicking small, obnoxious dogs. That was a joke. I do condone kicking fascists, however.)

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    All overshadowed by “Zillion march for Zorg the destroyer”.

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    I really love the little touch of the march leaving peewee hockey games unscreamed at.

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    Ate the onion?

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      No, why? AFAIK there is no rule against satire in !canada

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