Various nuggets of interest in this survey of Gen Z and millennials
TinyPizza ( @TinyPizza@kbin.social ) 105•9 months agoJohnny Harris did a “both sides” dive into Joe a month ago and I unsubbed after watching that garbage. He just kinda breezes over shit and ends up being like “he just intellectually curious.” Fuck right off with that shit. I remember years ago when that jungle spice smoking thumb of a man had Andy Ngo on and a friend of mine was trying to defend him asking if its “ok for people to attack a journalist.” The friend didn’t really know the context outside of the vague framework they supplied, but we argued for like 20 minutes. Even after I showed him who Ngo really was and what he was all about, it seemed impossible to break the perception he’d been given that Ngo was a victim.
Rogan is a misinformation gateway that primes people for the bigger scam down the line, whilst washing it’s hands of any responsibility. He disarms people with a “curious” persona and the majority of his content just being empty mental calories to be consumed. It’s like a viral carrier that dulls peoples mental immunity against right wing propaganda by surrounding it in a 100 layers of DMT vision stories. Personally feel like it makes him one of the bigger dangers for people getting put into the pilled pipeline.
lobut ( @lobut@lemmy.ca ) 24•9 months agoRogan is a misinformation gateway that primes people for the bigger scam down the line, whilst washing it’s hands of any responsibility.
It’s a psychological phenomenon called “the Joe Rogan Experience”. Seriously, as an avid former listener, it’s basically that. We can debate whether or not be doesn’t it maliciously or not but this is actually what’s happening.
Franzia ( @Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 13•9 months agoJohnny Harris has always been doing that shit. With every video he gets more ‘centrist’, or permissively unchallenging.
pingveno ( @pingveno@lemmy.ml ) English12•9 months agoI live in Portland so I’ve had the “privilege” of seeing who Andy Ngo really is closer hand than most. He’s nothing but a right wing propagandist, but he tries to cast himself as a journalist. The only similarity between him and an actual journalist is that he writes things.
BossDj ( @BossDj@lemm.ee ) 2•9 months agoSomeone earlier was still trying to push the “cement milkshakes” thing that never happened. It was scary when the media did pick him up while he was useful to them for a minute.
pingveno ( @pingveno@lemmy.ml ) English1•9 months agoIn a way I’m not surprised that the media picked that up. It was just hard to get a faithful account of everything that was happening at the scene.
archomrade [he/him] ( @archomrade@midwest.social ) English7•9 months agoBefore listening to Joe Rogan, my dad was a Reagan-era fiscal conservative, and now he regularly talks about how the WEF is a conspiratorial group trying to bring about the “great reset”, how COVID was both a hoax and also a bioweapon meant to disrupt western capitalism, and how BLM is a terrorist Marxist group who supports abortion as a means to destroy the nuclear family. I largely credit Rogan (and other ‘apolitical’ gateway pundits like him) for my father, and millions of other men, taking a hard turn right into reactionary politics.
He is not a harmless ‘dumb ape’
TinyPizza ( @TinyPizza@kbin.social ) 2•9 months agoThat sucks. I wonder how many years of time we’ve all lost with our parents because these con-men. I listen to “Knowledge Fight” and Alex Jones has been crowing for months now how he’s finally locked Joe in and got him to commit to the plan. The pride in his voice as he preens about duping Rogan makes me fell physically ill. Highly recommend “Knowledge fight” if you haven’t checked it out!
Wage_slave ( @Wage_slave@lemmy.ml ) 75•9 months agoAs a dude, if a woman listens to Joe Rogan, it’s a red flag.
originalfrozenbanana ( @originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee ) 62•9 months agoThe results for men are wild. A good chunk of the things men view as red flags are basically “she has an opinion”
KevonLooney ( @KevonLooney@lemm.ee ) 20•9 months agoWhich ones? They’re similar for each gender.
apotheotic(she/they) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English9•9 months agoTo call those “similar” is incredibly disingenuous. They differ by as much as 100% in several cases
Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) English1•9 months agoI think that goes for both, but what those opinions are obviously matters.
floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English43•9 months agoIt’s depressing how reactionary many men are, even the young ones.
seitanic ( @seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org ) 10•9 months agoI remember when I was that age, and I was the same way. I think it might be a part of toxic masculinity. People look up to men who are quick and decisive, not ones who sit and ponder. Any indecision is seen as a weakness.
Zuberi 👀 ( @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 39•9 months agoThis has to be the most normie-ass sampling method of all time.
Ads on Facebook and Instagram???.. Only 1,000 people?.. More than 3% Sampling Error?
No wonder they got all of these fucking stupid results that every tabloid posted all over the internet without even waiting for ChangeReasearch to post the results on their site.
Maybe the commie dudes just fucked right off of Meta platforms and the only remaining dudes are sad and lonely incels who just want to look at the women who never left. (Assuming cishet here, no hate)
- Hot Saucerman ( @dingus@lemmy.ml ) English39•9 months ago
That percentage needs to be way higher for me to feel good things about it.
arc ( @arc@lemm.ee ) 35•9 months agoEven as a man it’s a red flag - “me no think so good, big thoughts hurt brain, bald man make hurt go away with soothing words”
michaelrose ( @michaelrose@lemmy.ml ) English35•9 months agoAlso of note 76% of women consider being a MAGA republican a red flag and somehow one percent actually considers the person reading a red flag. Also being conservative is about as unpopular as being a communist.
XenGi ( @xengi@feddit.de ) 33•9 months agoAmericans are super weird…
Microw ( @Microw@lemm.ee ) 6•9 months agoThe annoying thing is that they post articles like this without indicating it’s an US survey
sverit ( @sverit@feddit.de ) 3•9 months agoThat “They own a gun” question would be so strange in my country, I can’t imagine this being normal.
Voyager ( @Voyager@psychedelia.ink ) English2•9 months agoI wish Lemmy had flairs like the language or reddit flairs so that we can filter out us centric topics.
justdoit ( @justdoit@lemm.ee ) 27•9 months agoIt’s a red flag when I’m making new friends too.
It just screams “I don’t read up on any viewpoints presented to me”
apotheotic(she/they) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English25•9 months ago“People who regularly have their faces eaten by leopards” less likely to believe “leopards should eat peoples faces”
More at 11
baremetal ( @baremetal@lemmy.ml ) 24•9 months agojoe rogan is a moron who perpetuates whatever simple simon viewpoint strikes him at any moment. I remember when he was stoked about a red wave that never came. People don’t like douche bags, it’s a turn off. If you are influenced by douche bags women could find that unattractive.
The only people I know who like joe rogan think elon musk is a messiah (while hating electric cars), love rap music (while hating black people) and think their belly button smells good.
MartinXYZ ( @MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml ) 7•9 months agoand think their belly button smells good.
That’s a weird one.
Sharkwellington ( @Sharkwellington@lemmy.one ) 22•9 months agoThose responses from men are massively disappointing.
pH3ra ( @pH3ra@lemmy.ml ) 20•9 months agoYes but also, by the same article, 55% of women considers a red flag if you “identify as a communist” and only 27% considers a turnoff “owning a gun”
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markopi ( @markopi@lemmy.zip ) English30•9 months agoTo be fair, communists do have a red flag.
hamid ( @hamid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 10•9 months agoWomen and spouses in particular are statistically the most likely to get shot once a gun is in their home, by far. I understand the need for protection and why there is support for guns but stats are stats, women are the victims of male perpetuated gun violence far more often than people in power.
michaelrose ( @michaelrose@lemmy.ml ) English6•9 months agoNote identify as a communist not are identified as a communist by a right winger who doesn’t know what the word means and identifies anyone left of Adolf as a communist.
Edit: corrected
Wugmeister ( @ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 18•9 months agoAccurate