alcasa ( @alcasa@lemmy.sdf.org ) 24•1 year agoWho the hell would call python beautiful has never seen python code in the wild
prowlr ( @prowlr@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year agoToo true, python can be beautiful and succinct or like a huge plate of spaghetti cut up with scissors
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕡 ( @help@lemmy.ml ) English10•1 year agoOne big reason Nim never really caught on is because we’ve got lots of fast-ish languages with garbage collection (like Go, which sucks a lot of oxygen away from Nim IMO). Rust introduced a new concept to the mainstream that lets you program safely without a runtime hit for garbage collection.
solrize ( @solrize@lemmy.ml ) English1•1 year agoAda would like a word with you ;)
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕡 ( @help@lemmy.ml ) English1•1 year agoTo my knowledge, Ada doesn’t have an equivalent to Rust’s borrow checker. I also think I covered that base by specifying “mainstream” 😀
loops ( @loops@lemmy.ml ) 8•1 year agoWhat are the last two? I know Python and C, but haven’t seen the last two.
pollocks ( @pollocks@lemmy.ml ) 20•1 year agoThe third one is rust which has become a meme at this point. Programmers like it because it has almost as much performance as C but has a lot of safeguards preventing memory errors and vulnerabilities. I have no idea what the last one is tho
loops ( @loops@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year agoDid rust change it’s logo? I thought it was a gear. :s
dragnucs ( @dragnucs@lemmy.ml ) 10•1 year agoIt did not change logo. This is the mascot.
ReakDuck ( @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml ) 2•1 year agoI think it just has two logos but idk
Double_A ( @Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de ) 2•1 year agoThe crab is public domain, so you can use it to advertise your own Rust project or whatever. The gear logo belongs to the Rust foundation, which sparked some controversy a while ago.
Lupec ( @lupec@lemmy.lpcha.im ) 13•1 year ago Re4mstr ( @Re4mstr@lemmy.re4mstr.com ) 5•1 year agoCrab is Rust, but the last one…
Justin ( @jlh@lemmy.jlh.name ) 12•1 year agoApparently it’s called nim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_(programming_language)
Looking at the Wikipedia article, it seems like it has some weird syntax choices. And even though it compiles to C code, I’m not convinced that it’s as fast as C or Rust, since it has a garbage collector.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 9•1 year agoI’m pretty skeptical it could be as fast and safe as Rust without the added challenge. Like, even doing what Rust did was a big deal.
potatoBoy ( @potatoBoy@programming.dev ) Afaraf1•11 months agoCan compile to C which then compiles using your favourite compiler. So it can operate at the speed of C
And the new memory management system is similar to rusts system (and can be fully disabled if you want manual memory management)
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•11 months agoCan compile to C which then compiles using your favourite compiler. So it can operate at the speed of C
Technically, it all compiles to assembly, but Python is still a lot slower than C or Rust. Speed is lost along the way through those layers of abstraction.
And the new memory management system is similar to rusts system (and can be fully disabled if you want manual memory management)
So it doesn’t have a garbage collector? I’m going to have to actually look into this myself.
HolyHell ( @HolyHell@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 1•1 year agoOH… NIM NIM NIM NIM NIM FUCKING NIM
HolyHell ( @HolyHell@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 1•1 year agoOH… NIM NIM NIM NIM NIM FUCKING NIM
HolyHell ( @HolyHell@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 1•1 year agoOH… NIM NIM NIM NIM NIM FUCKING NIM
kia ( @kia@lemmy.ca ) 8•1 year agoOnce you get used to the Rust syntax, it actually makes the code look cleaner.
dragnucs ( @dragnucs@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year agoAns you also learn to format it properly.
Generally any new santax looks ugly. Then when you understand why it is written like it is it starts looking good.
off_brand_ ( @off_brand_@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year agoGo error handling… It looked so ugly to me when I started. The I kept going and… it’s still awful. I get the theory, but god do I want a try catch block ☠️
Maintaining any mature code is often skipping over 20 little error blocks for each function call, pushing the critical code off the viewport.
zexu knub ( @zexu@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year agoyou forgot zig