The Gulf Stream plays a significant role in maintaining the climate of the US East Coast and Western Europe. “We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years.” The full study is Here
- FUCKRedditMods ( @FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee ) 102•9 months ago
Everywhere I look everything is getting fucked to death. Insects, fish, entire ecosystems, entire climates, entire regions near the equator, all FUCKED.
Then my uncle says “how come it’s getting colder some places, I thought the globe was supposed to be warming! Hahahah”
At least he can arguably not give a fuck. He is rich and has no kids. I don’t get why the poors on the right side of the spectrum are so willing to parrot this idiotic bullshit though, don’t they realize their 600 even-poorer grandchildren are FUCKED?
- Spzi ( @Spzi@lemm.ee ) 24•9 months ago
People with poor education are poor at spotting idiotic bullshit. Also there are other factors why people believe things. We aren’t that rational.
- Hot Saucerman ( @dingus@lemmy.ml ) English14•9 months ago
It jives with how they see Trump as a “Godly, Christian man.” According to recent polls, they view him as more “Christian” than Mike fucking Pence.
I wonder if part of it is that belief begets belief? They believe in Trump because he believes so deeply in himself and they identify with that?
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 18•9 months ago
don’t they realize their 600 even-poorer grandchildren are FUCKED?
No. The effort to make that unclear has been very successful.
- Ransom ( @Ransom@lemmy.one ) 14•9 months ago
So we suiciding or what? Only slightly kidding.
- Zuberi 👀 ( @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 21•9 months ago
As a very religious person until my 20s, I have brought up this idea to multiple people lol. My depressed-ass brain was like, why tf don’t we just rush to heaven instead?..
I can ASSURE you, the “it’ll all be 100% fine when you’re dead” has killed so many people’s drives to be a good person.
The planet is fucked because this 40% of USA voters don’t give one flying fuck about future generations.
- maporita ( @maporita@unilem.org ) 21•9 months ago
I remember a case where a mother killed her two young kids because she wanted them to go to heaven. Her reasoning was that if they grew up and became sinners they would end up in hell. By murdering them before they knew what sin was she actually saved them. Thing is, if you believe in that shit then what she did really makes perfect sense.
- FUCKRedditMods ( @FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee ) 14•9 months ago
That’s what I’ll ask christian mothers from now on.
“If you really love your children how come you didn’t smother them immediately after their baptism?”
- megane-kun ( @megane_kun@lemm.ee ) English6•9 months ago
A horrible, horrible mental image entered my mind: a priest dunking an infant into the baptismal font during a baptism ceremony and then proceeding smoothly to a requiem prayer as the infant drowns in holy water.
- FUCKRedditMods ( @FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee ) 8•9 months ago
They’ve drowned babies doing baptisms before… if you look online you can find some CRAZY violent orthodox baptisms out of russia and the like. They dunk them babies like a goddamn basketball. Baby pulling mad g forces.
- megane-kun ( @megane_kun@lemm.ee ) English5•9 months ago
I would have wished my horrible mental image was just a figment of my imagination, lol! Reality is stranger than fiction, indeed.
- yngmnwntr ( @yngmnwntr@lemmy.ml ) 6•9 months ago
This is literally why suicide was made a mortal sin. Early Christians were killing themselves to get to heaven and the clergy of the time made it a sin because dead Christians pay no tithes.
- vivadanang ( @vivadanang@lemm.ee ) English7•9 months ago
as a species, pretty much.
- zephyreks ( @zephyreks@programming.dev ) 9•9 months ago
Yes, but think of the profits.
Where are those profits going? Definitely not to you, that’s for sure.
- Dynamo ( @dynamo@lemm.ee ) 6•9 months ago
But who’ll think of the poor investors? /s
- DigitalNirvana ( @DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee ) 28•9 months ago
Robust Weakening of the Gulf Stream During the Past Four Decades Observed in the Florida Straits https://doi.org/10.1029/2023GL105170
Plain Language Summary
The Gulf Stream is a major ocean current located off the East Coast of the United States. It carries a tremendous amount of seawater and along with it heat, carbon, and other ocean constituents. Because of this, the Gulf Stream plays an important role in weather and climate, influencing phenomena as seemingly unrelated as sea level along coastal Florida and temperature and precipitation over continental Europe. Given how important this ocean current is to science and society, scientists have tried to determine whether the Gulf Stream has undergone significant changes under global warming, but so far, they have not reached a firm conclusion. Here we report our effort to synthesize available Gulf Stream observations from the Florida Straits near Miami, and to assess whether and how the Gulf Stream transport there has changed since 1982. We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years, the first conclusive, unambiguous observational evidence that this ocean current has undergone significant change in the recent past. Future studies should try to identify the cause of this change.
- Colour_me_triggered ( @Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee ) 14•9 months ago
I welcome the decrease in temperature, but it would be great if it weren’t connected to the earth being irreparably fucked. One winter at -40 (C or F) and people will start moving south and I might actually be able to afford to buy a house.
- Nalivai ( @Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de ) 2•9 months ago
When we will be able to afford a home, it will be bad enough that we will not want to. Accelerationism is never an answer
- Michal ( @Michal@programming.dev ) 9•9 months ago
I was hoping the silver lining of climate change would be hotter weather here in Ireland. Shit.
- Blackmist ( @Blackmist@feddit.uk ) English5•9 months ago
Oh well, we had a good innings there didn’t we?
Still, I’m in my 40s now, so if it doesn’t completely collapse for about 50 years or so I’m pretty sure I won’t have to worry about it.
- BubblyMango ( @BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf ) 4•9 months ago
So no real evidence this is
connected tocaused by climate change huh?- Queue ( @queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 38•9 months ago
“The climate changing is not proof of climate change!”
Top minds are hard at work here today.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 6•9 months ago
Even if OP meant global warming, they didn’t include evidence here because it’s pretty much implied. If you’re literate enough to read actual papers there are indeed people that work out the odds each event or disaster is unrelated to GW, and those odds are often tiny.
- BubblyMango ( @BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf ) 1•9 months ago
A phenomenon that causes climate change is not necessarily caused by climate change. If i burn a forest down it would increase climate change, but the cause is me burning down a forest.
- Dynamo ( @dynamo@lemm.ee ) 4•9 months ago
Seeing this, i kinda hope that it happens as fast as possible. That way the rich will see exactly what they’ve done, and maybe we’ll manage to get some revenge
- Nalivai ( @Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de ) 11•9 months ago
Hundreds of millions will die and hundreds of millions more will suffer, and the rich will care as much as they do right now
- Stormyfemme ( @Stormyfemme@beehaw.org ) English7•9 months ago
Nah they’ll be fine no matter what happens. Accelerationism hurts the most vulnerable more than anyone else.
- Dynamo ( @dynamo@lemm.ee ) 2•9 months ago
I mean we’ll hurt them, not the climate
- Jack ( @Jack@lemmy.ca ) English2•9 months ago
Is this not the only tipping point that can actually reduce energy held by the biosphere due to increased ice in the northern hemisphere, and therefor increasing Earth’s albedo?