cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6018317
Hello World!
As we’ve all known and talked about quite a lot, we previously blocked several piracy-focused communities. These communities, as announced, were:
- !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com,
- !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com,
- !piracy@lemmy.ml, and their local counterparts as follow up actions.
In our removal announcement, we stated that we will continue to look into this more in detail, and re-allow these communities if and when we deem it safe. It was a solid concern at the time, because we were already receiving takedown requests as well as constant attacks, and didn’t want to put our volunteer team at risk. We had zero measures in place, and the tools we had were insufficient to deal with anything at scale.
Well, after back and forth with some very cool people, and starting to have proper measures as well as tooling to protect ourselves, we decided it’s time to welcome these communities back again. Long live the IT nerds!
We know it’s been a rough ride with everything, and we’d like to thank every one of you who were understanding of us, and stayed with us all the way. Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it.
With love, and as always, stay safe in the high seas!
Lemmy.world Team
❤️
That’s nice of them to walk it back. Definitely not something you’d see Reddit do
Yeah, it was a nice surprise for sure. I’m glad to have the lemmy.world crowd back, plenty of booty for all.
Reckon they were also losing users cause of this decision.
Definitely. I migrated my account after they took an anti-piracy stance.
Ye basically me, left right away to lemme.ee
Same here, now I only use .world only for .world communities, .ee for everything else.
yeah I sure love lots of booty
Dbzer0 is one of the few I have seen making Lemmy better and better.
It’s honestly the perfect use case for Lemmy too. It’s the kind of thing where decentralization is hugely helpful.
Aww shucks :)
So they finally realized the person that convinced them to block the piracy subs was an idiot transphobic troll who was unhealthily obsessed with defending bungie, a faceless game corporation that needs no defense?
Shocker.
Don’t try to tell them in their “community”, lemmy.world users are as nasty as always!
I’m curious what the takedown requests were citing, those communities don’t really host pirated material, they just share links and info.
There weren’t any, it was just a troll account that asked admins at a bunch of different Lemmy instances to block anything related to piracy. Lemmy.world admins took the bait. Even in the original announcement they never mentioned anything about dealing with tons of takedown requests. In other words they were blocking piracy related content preemptively before any takedowns occurred.
It’s nice they walked back that decision but I’m still not going to create an account there.
Lemmy.world has a bad habit of acting preemptively first and asking questions later.
The companies don’t care if they have legal grounds. The threat of legal fees are enough to make most places comply
“We love you… unless it’s not in our best interest to do so.”
Lemmy instances are run by VOLUNTEERS! Lemmy.world is not a COMPANY. A company can have an army of lawyers. An instance run by VOLUNTEERS cannot.
You’re acting like lemmy.world is ran by a corporation with plenty of power to fight back.
We’ll see you battling takedown requests and not being paid to do so.
All at the risk of a lawyer coming for your ass and closing the whole server down.
They can’t touch my server its hosted on the moon
Don’t you have a subreddit to try to be funny in?
That’s kind of how it should work everywhere though. Cher figured that out about Sonny eventually for instance.
Still don’t trust them, they recently censored the fosscad community without announcement or warning.
Wheres it going?
No acknowledgement or sorry for their stupid garbage and if you try to mention it in their “community” you won’t have a good time, definitely not going to follow anything on that instance except the shitposts again but good to see that they correct a mistake at all I guess!
Great news, that’s a whole lot of people having access to this community again!
I used to have an account on that woke instance. Left the dumpster fire for lemmy.ml. Not going to entertain obvious censorship on Lemmy.
You left a “woke” instance for one run by communists?
When did commies become woke?
Damn, I want your drugs!
Trust me you don’t want them!
This doesn’t sound like censorship, it sounds like they were getting legal threats directly levied at their volunteer team. I can understand the desire to protect yourself against getting sued for your (admittedly large) side project. It sounds like they are working on it in good faith though.
it sounds like they were getting legal threats directly levied at their volunteer team
In the spirit of transparency to the community, post pictures of the legal letters received. Or am just going to assume you are carrying out moderation ahem censorship on the instance.
sounds like they are working on it in good faith though.
Sure. All censorship starts out in good faith.
Firstly, let me be clear. This is my opinion as someone who isn’t, and has never been involved with their instance in any capacity. My account is with pawb.social.
Posting legal letters may open them up to additional legal liability, and it is completely reasonable to let the community know what happened without sharing the actual letter.
Secondly, you’re putting words in my mouth. I am not saying they are censoring in good faith. I am saying the complete opposite, that they are reversing their stance in good faith. In other words, they are uncensoring content in good faith.
Posting legal letters may open them up to additional legal liability
So it’s a case of their word against ours… Anyway, IANAL but I’ve seen other similarly positioned projects in the open-source software world post evidence of similar letters.
they are uncensoring content in good faith
You do understand that this means that at worst the legal threat did not exist in the first place. At best, the threat no longer exists. Either way, the damage is already done. I don’t see the point of walking back. You just don’t get to “uncensor” things after the fact.
What tf was woke about that or even better question what tf dose woke even mean by now?..
Trigger happy on banning communities/speech under the guise of moderation using a loosely interpreted TOS policy counts as woke to me.
That’s just shitty moderation and probably a overworked mod team, not sure what drug you got your hands on but I would kind of like to try it if you have any left!
Sounds like excuses to me and avoidance in tackling the real issues at hand (censorship of content).
There is a difference betwen cencorship and moderation and one of them is a must sve or you end up with 4chan 2.0 but in this case the decition was bad the the reasoning even worse!
I disagree. Lemmy mods that grew in size got trigger happy with the block button, just like reddit mods did/do. And uses the same tired excuses to justify their behavior.
Lemmy mods have a horrible and unthankful job, they get flooded with CSAM we never have to see and I didn’t experience any issues with mods so far, is it possible that the issue is related to the kind of stuff you post?
I created this user in this instance because I knew this would eventually happen.
I’m happy with my choice.
Good.