A major change to Australian design rules promises to be a “game changer” for Australia’s shift to electric freight transport.
The new rule announced by the federal government will allow wider trucks on Australian roads, bringing the country in line with overseas markets and removing one of the key barriers to local uptake of heavy duty electric trucks, as most overseas-built models were just a few centimetres too wide to meet Australia’s previous standards.
“This Safer Freight Vehicles package responds to direct calls from industry to increase the width limit of trucks and follows extensive public consultation and feedback,” said federal assistant minister for infrastructure and transport Carol Brown.
“These changes will be a real game changer for industry, businesses and other road users, as they will save lives by adopting technology to reduce the likelihood of crashes, while also lowering freight costs and supporting better environmental outcomes.”
The change increases the overall width limit from 2.50 to 2.55 metres for new trucks, as long as they are fitted with safety features such as side guards and devices to limit blind spots.
- No1 ( @No1@aussie.zone ) 18•9 months ago
Bahahaahhaa!
It’s true that Aussie widths are less than some other countries.
But AFAICT these proposed rules are not limited to electric trucks. And don’t think just semis. SUVs, pickups.
Get used to seeing diesel monster trucks rolling coal, and other emotional support vehicles become a lot more common.
- talivision ( @talivision@aussie.zone ) 5•9 months ago
RIP cyclists and small children
- kowcop ( @kowcop@aussie.zone ) English2•9 months ago
How about any SUV with huge towing mirrors permanently fitted and extended to their max?
- fruitleatherpostcard ( @fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee ) 17•9 months ago
Seeing as how the majority of truck drivers here in Australia are complete aggro cunts, this should be marvellous as they’ll be able to destroy even more innocent drivers.
- Nath ( @Nath@aussie.zone ) 8•9 months ago
If I had to work on the road full time, I’m sure my patience would also be limited. We’re talking about an increase of 5cm to the width of the trucks. Nobody is going to notice.
- Echinoderm ( @Echinoderm@aussie.zone ) English7•9 months ago
I don’t know about that. When I used to ride a bike to work near a busy truck route, I felt like the truck drivers were the most courteous and conscious of keeping a safe distance. Normal car drivers were a mixed bag: usually not a problem, but not reliable enough to trust. But bus drivers… it felt like bus drivers were actively pissed off by the existence of cyclists.
- ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻ ( @unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ) English5•9 months ago
Without Trucks Australia Stops!
Edit: For the benefit of non-australians who are downvoting this, I am being sarcastic in reference to the common “Without Trucks Australia Stops” sign found on the backs of trucks.
- fruitleatherpostcard ( @fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee ) 14•9 months ago
How about a rail freight network that works?
Nope. Truck unions bribed hard enough for that not to happen.
- Echinoderm ( @Echinoderm@aussie.zone ) English3•9 months ago
I think it’s far more likely that any lobbying to stymie rail expansion is coming from toll road operators like Transurban.
Unfortunately we don’t have a rail freight network that either works well or reaches every township in Australia, and until we do encouraging the switch from ICE road haulage to EV road haulage is the best way to reduce transport industry emissions.
For a lot of the more rural towns (or a least for the ones I know of) that do have rail connections, they are only accessible using diesel locomotives as there is no electricity network set up to power electric trains. So if we don’t want to introduce more emissions from rail freight we would have to electrify the whole rail network.
Realistically we should be building rail and allowing EV trucks to be more accessible, but Australia is a big place, building all that rail infrastructure will take time. A good stepping stone would be to build rail connections to regional urban centres and then have trucks distributing it to the surrounding towns, but even building that much rail will take time. And that’s just the construction. The amount of time it would take to secure the land corridors for the rail would be considerable alone. AEMO have been having a difficult enough time securing land rights to build transmissions networks across properties
- rcbrk ( @rcbrk@lemmy.ml ) 2•9 months ago
For a lot of the more rural towns (or a least for the ones I know of) that do have rail connections, they are only accessible using diesel locomotives as there is no electricity network set up to power electric trains. So if we don’t want to introduce more emissions from rail freight we would have to electrify the whole rail network.
Hydrogen (and battery) are both viable energy storage methods for heavy rail freight:
Yeah true I didn’t even think about batteries or hydrogen as diesel replacements for trains. The up to 6MWh of storage your article quotes for the short distance hauls sounds like a lot of storage, but I guess there is a considerable amount of surface area at the bottom of a locomotive that could be filled with batteries, and if each locomotive can’t hold enough storage to pull the load, you can just add another locomotive to the train to make up the difference.
- DogMuffins ( @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de ) English3•9 months ago
This is a very common “fuck cars” solution but it’s not clear exactly what is envisaged.
Rail is currently used only for single commodities. In west aus for example grain is hauled from farms to bins in trucks, then bins to ports by rail. Obviously you can’t send trains to every paddock in every farm.
For mixed freight, a grocer 500km from Perth can order whatever at 5pm and have it arrive by trucj at 12pm, ready for it to be shelved ready for sale the next morning.
High speed freight rail just isn’t viable for WA given the low population density. Even if it were, I wonder at whether mixed freight in such short time frames is possible.
- fruitleatherpostcard ( @fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee ) 4•9 months ago
Yes I agree that a mixed method is best. However the current predominant method of road is unsustainable and dangerous. For instance, there is no excuse for an expanded east coast line not doing more to service various hubs which trucks can then the ‘final mile’ (yes I know; many 10’s of Ks) delivery.
- DogMuffins ( @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•9 months ago
Yeah, I’m not trying to advocate for trucks but in the example I mentioned mixed freight just wouldn’t be competitive.
By truck, the journey of Warehouse > 500km > Shop can be achieved in 7 hours.
By train, warehouse to train would be 2 hours minimum, 500km would be 8 hours minimum, and train to shop would be 3 or four hours minimum. Basically there’s two additional unload & sort & load events in the train journey, and the train is slower. The ~12 hours outlined here is also the absolute best case - most places in West Aus just don’t have the requisite economy of scale.
I guess there must be solutions which just aren’t apparent because this method of freight isn’t common. Shipping containers would be helpful for example.
- No1 ( @No1@aussie.zone ) 2•9 months ago
@fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee
How about a rail freight network that works?
Nope. Truck unions bribed hard enough for that not to happen.
Hey, would be interested to read up on that. Any online sources handy?
- fruitleatherpostcard ( @fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee ) 1•9 months ago
Apologies but no not offhand. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a couple articles in the past. The Guardian I think.
- Prandom_returns ( @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ) 6•9 months ago
Ah yes, the electrification of trucks. Where 1/3 of the cargo your hauling is your own batteries. Efficiency at its finest.
- 38fhh2f8th5819c7 ( @38fhh2f8th5819c7@lemm.ee ) 11•9 months ago
The thing is, electric motors are so efficient that even hauling the mass of the batteries they are still more efficient than old fashioned internal combustion engines.
- Prandom_returns ( @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ) 2•9 months ago
Nah. Diesel engine’s efficiency is ~40%, Electric Motor’s ~75%. Since you’re hauling batteries, you haul less cargo, which means you need more trucks, more trips, more drivers, more charging time, etc.
- abhibeckert ( @abhibeckert@beehaw.org ) 4•9 months ago
Truck drivers in Australia are banned from driving more than 5.5 hours at a time. There are already dedicated places to stop and park a large truck every 5 hours or so on every single highway.
A truck that can drive five hours on a charge doesn’t need that big of a battery. Tesla’s semi goes much much further than that on a charge and it would, as you point out, be more efficient if it had a smaller/lighter battery.
I expect where we’ll end up is drivers will, when they stop for their mandatory rest, disconnect the trailer, hook the truck up to charging infrastructure, then connect the trailer to a fresh truck with a fully charged battery.
The charging infrastructure would likely be optimised for price, not speed. For example only charge the truck during the day when the grid is running on solar power.
Diesel trucks are not cheap by the way - maintenance plus the cost of the diesel works out to something like a hundred thousand dollars per year assuming you drive the truck all year.
There are too many questions to be answered to calculate how much money you’d save, since electric trucks don’t exist at all yet, but my city has started deploying electric busses and they work out to a savings of a quarter million dollars per bus (over the life of the bus). Obviously with savings like that, they are going to stop buying diesel busses entirely as soon as they possibly can. It will be the same for trucks.
- Prandom_returns ( @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ) 2•9 months ago
Well, you’re listing all these things that will happen in the future, seemingly disregarding any other potential advancements in alternative fuels.
Infrastructure, dead batteries, overhauled shipping processes… It’s a lot of change (read: money) for a rather small improvement.
So far, it seems that trucks and batteries simply do not mix. What will happen ‘next year TM’, we’ll see. Right now I am skeptical.
- ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻ ( @unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ) English1•9 months ago
Charging time could be averted by having swappable batteries, perhaps like the swap 'n go gas bottles used for homes. Except, obviously paying a bit on top for the wear of the battery.
- Takatakatakatakatak ( @bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English3•9 months ago
It could grip it by the husk!
- 38fhh2f8th5819c7 ( @38fhh2f8th5819c7@lemm.ee ) 2•9 months ago
Suppose two swallows carried it together?
- Prandom_returns ( @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ) 1•9 months ago
Full self driving next year, surely.
- tau ( @Tau@aussie.zone ) English5•9 months ago
Shouldn’t be a problem most places, though some roads and docks already feel tight enough at 2.5m.
An extra 5cm inside would be nice though - even that extra little bit of room would often make it easier to get a pair of pallets in.