President Joe Biden will tout his economic agenda in remarks Wednesday as he campaigns for a second term amid low polling numbers on his job performance and the direction of the country.
The president’s plan, which the White House dubbed “Bidenomics,” aims to “move beyond” the “trickle down” economic theory that it says disproportionately benefits the wealthy and big corporations through tax cuts while reducing investment in priorities such as infrastructure and education, and failing to protect market competition.
CMLVI ( @CMLVI@kbin.social ) 52•1 year agoTying his name to it seems like a bad idea. People opposed Obamacare because of the name; half the country gets off on hating Democrats mostly because of the color of the ticket. Calling it Bidenomics will only make it easier for the talking heads to shit on it.
harky ( @harky@kbin.social ) 41•1 year agoIs he/the White House doing it or is the press calling it that?
Obama consistently called it the affordable care act. CMLVI ( @CMLVI@kbin.social ) 9•1 year agoI don’t know if he started it, but he was quoted as saying “Bidenomics is working”, so he, at worst, is endorsing the name openly.
And yeah, but that sorta proves the point. Tying a Dems name to something is all it takes to mob it down; ignoring that it was incredibly similar to “Romneycare”
DreamerofDays ( @DreamerofDays@lemm.ee ) 2•1 year agoTo the contrary, if you embrace the name your opposition is going to try saddling it with anyway, you can focus on fighting for the substance of it, rather than what it’s called.
Theoretically, at least.
knnltf ( @knnltf@kbin.social ) 9•1 year agoIf there were a singular Bidenomics bill, I would agree. In this case, running for reelection, he needs to anchor discussion around his accomplishments. Historically, name-onomics has been a successful positive campaign pitch for presidential reelections. The risk is having the name tied to a downturn, which is (thankfully) not entirely under the president’s control.
CMLVI ( @CMLVI@kbin.social ) 5•1 year agoI can see that. Plus by doing it himself, he has more control over the narrative. If it was bad, he wouldn’t be openly touting it as his own.
Idk, tho. I have no faith that people can rationalize information on their own. Whatever Tucker or Alex Jones says is gospel, because only their chosen media doesn’t lie.
Otome-chan ( @Otome-chan@kbin.social ) 1•1 year agoIf this economy is to be blamed on biden, then he’s perhaps the worst president in history, because the economy is the worst it’s ever been.
Gray ( @Gray@lemmy.ca ) 0•1 year agoRegardless of whether you believe the economy is good or bad right now, saying it’s the “worst it’s ever been” is blatantly hyperbolic and untrue. The Great Depression and the 2008 Recession are two incidents we all still talk about. Today’s economic situation can’t hold a flame to how bad those periods of time were. I hope you’re using exaggerated language without ill intent, but it certainly comes off as disingeuous and manipulatively partisan to use language like that when it’s so clearly untrue.
Otome-chan ( @Otome-chan@kbin.social ) 1•1 year agoI would say what we have now in 2023 is worse than 2008. I didn’t live through the great depression so can’t comment there. The older I get, the worse things become in both an economic and social sense. My comment indeed was a bit hyperbolic but the point stands. In 2008 we had large movements clearly pushing against the 1%. Nowadays such a thing really doesn’t exist. Similarly there were far more mom&pops back in 2008 than today.
I think one thing is that people talking about “recessions” or “gdp” and other such nonsense are really only looking at the rich. Which for them? yeah things are probably better than ever. But for regular people? No.
Cylusthevirus ( @Cylusthevirus@kbin.social ) 6•1 year agoMeh. They’d do it regardless and it’s not half, more like 25-30%. Rather a lot of the country doesn’t vote.
In any case, I think the focus should be on the substance of the policy, not what the local baboon population happens to be screeching about today.
CMLVI ( @CMLVI@kbin.social ) 2•1 year agoI was gonna say “I’d go to that zoo” but then I remembered I’ve been to Walmart in the last year, so I have already been to that zoo…
BigMcLargeHuge ( @BigMcLargeHuge@mstdn.social ) 5•1 year ago CMLVI ( @CMLVI@kbin.social ) 2•1 year agoDon’t disagree, but we can be realistic about about a large portion of the voting populace. Saying they’re a waste of breath doesn’t prevent that bloc from voting
BigMcLargeHuge ( @BigMcLargeHuge@mstdn.social ) 0•1 year ago CMLVI ( @CMLVI@kbin.social ) 1•1 year agoYeah, I get ya. Just sucks this is the reality within which we operate lol
BigMcLargeHuge ( @BigMcLargeHuge@mstdn.social ) 1•1 year ago
Cylusthevirus ( @Cylusthevirus@kbin.social ) 1•1 year agoSadly everything I know about implicit racism suggests that we’re ALL influenced by it to some degree. You can’t live in the ocean without getting wet.
But I figure you mean the people that embrace it, in which case, agreed.
yunggwailo ( @yunggwailo@kbin.social ) 3•1 year agoHes not black hell be fine. He should attach his name to it, its good marketing. Thats why we still call it Obamacare and Reagonomics
ritzylasagna ( @ritzylasagna@kbin.social ) 1•1 year agoRepublicans are actually responsible for calling the Affordable Care Act “Obamacare” so that they could blame healthcare issues on him. Obama ended up actually liking that name despite the Republican attempt to use it negatively.
Burp ( @Burp@kbin.social ) 28•1 year agoI never wanted Joe Biden to win, but he has completely won me over. He has been an absolute class act. Americans are very fortunate to have a president who has experience with the Cold War right now. I can’t think of any major criticism, besides his age.
The economic policy has been effective, unemployment is low, inflation is under control, working class wages have risen, foreign relations are stronger, the deficit spending has been dropping, and the country feels much less hostile then it did 2-4 years ago.
I seriously was upset he won, but he’s impressed me. danbob ( @danbob@kbin.social ) 8•1 year agoI’m the same. I really wasn’t wanting him to be the Dem nominee, but he’s done so much to win me over. For a bit, I was quite unhappy with him over his resolution of the railroad worker strike since I’m pro-worker, pro-union-action. But that strike was over sick days and now I’m seeing railroads set up their employees with sick days. I don’t know what Biden’s involvement is in any of these resolutions, but it’s given me a good feeling that he’s really aware of the situations he’s approaching.
Heresy_generator ( @Heresy_generator@kbin.social ) 6•1 year agoAccording to the IBEW, Biden’s involvement was significant.
http://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
“We’re thankful that the Biden administration played the long game on sick days and stuck with us for months after Congress imposed our updated national agreement,” [IBEW Railroad Department Director] Russo said. “Without making a big show of it, Joe Biden and members of his administration in the Transportation and Labor departments have been working continuously to get guaranteed paid sick days for all railroad workers.
“We know that many of our members weren’t happy with our original agreement,” Russo said, “but through it all, we had faith that our friends in the White House and Congress would keep up the pressure on our railroad employers to get us the sick day benefits we deserve. Until we negotiated these new individual agreements with these carriers, an IBEW member who called out sick was not compensated.”
blazera ( @blazera@kbin.social ) 3•1 year agohow about that policy where no federal land can be used for wind or solar power unless even more land is leased for oil and gas extraction?
Burp ( @Burp@kbin.social ) 1•1 year agoSource? I can’t find anything about this requirement.
Otome-chan ( @Otome-chan@kbin.social ) 2•1 year agopersonally I can’t see a single thing to like about biden. Literally everything he’s done is either bad or just not impactful.
sensibilidades ( @sensibilidades@kbin.social ) 14•1 year agomiddle out
the Silicon Valley-based memes already write themselves
taigaman ( @taigaman@kbin.social ) 7•1 year agoWhat’s the mean jerk time of America on Bidenomics?
sensibilidades ( @sensibilidades@kbin.social ) 4•1 year agoit’s a tough question, for sure. I mean, the Silicon Valley joke was about one person jerking off everybody instead of a massive circle jerk. I have no doubt linear algebra is required for a circle jerk of that magnitude.
jeebus ( @jeebus@kbin.social ) 0•1 year agoAs fast as it takes Biden to fall asleep at nap time, 20 secs.
danc4498 ( @danc4498@kbin.social ) 9•1 year agoLots of people hating the name, but Reaganomics has been disastrous for our country, and republicans love the hell out of it.
Otome-chan ( @Otome-chan@kbin.social ) 2•1 year agoI think republicans don’t actually understand reaganomics. Because almost always you hear them complain about it, but they call it “coporatism” and other such things. They don’t realize that reagan is the one responsible for that “corporatism” that they despise. They just know they like reagan (couldn’t tell you why though), and that he’s responsible for “reaganomics”. But ask them about benefiting the large franchises and corporations and opposing mom&pops? republicans agree that it was awful. it’s kinda like how they like the affordable care act, but despise obamacare, despite those being the exact same thing.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year ago
“Today, the U.S. has the highest economic growth rate, leading the world economies since the pandemic — the highest in the world.”
Talk like this infuriates me. It’s so very out of touch.
- The streets are crawling with homeless people.
- Homeownership is completely unattainable.
- Even rental apartments are the subject of bidding wars.
- Living with your parents in your 30s is the new normal.
- Middle-class stay-at-home parents exist only in history books.
- Prices for food and other consumer goods have more than doubled in price since the pandemic began.
- Working only 40 hours a week is considered a luxurious privilege.
- Most major industries are dominated by a handful of megacorporations with no meaningful competition.
The economy is in no shape to be bragged about.
Can we fill the government with some actual progressives, please?
Otome-chan ( @Otome-chan@kbin.social ) 3•1 year agothose things are correlated with high gdp. Because all high gdp means is high profits. and high profits comes with harming people’s quality of life, underpaying them, etc.
HotDogFingies ( @HotDogFingies@kbin.social ) 2•1 year agoThank you. It’s like everyone has Stolkholm syndrome. Biden is a centrist. Fascists should not be allowed to define our baseline.
blazera ( @blazera@kbin.social ) 4•1 year agoRemember when Biden undermined the foundations of unions by forbidding them from collectively bargaining? How about overseeing the longest span of no minimum wage increase in US history? What are you gonna do Joe, spend even more on climate change accelerating road projects and leasing more federal land for oil?
anthoniix ( @anthoniix@kbin.social ) 3•1 year agoName is cringe, but the policies behind it are decent
Otome-chan ( @Otome-chan@kbin.social ) 2•1 year agoSo where’s the “bottom up” part? All the poor and unemployed people I know are still poor and unemployed. And nothing in that quote seems to address the issue?
Infrastructure is still also really bad with no signs of improvement; if anything it’s getting worse. I just saw another road be built/opened up here. Still no sidewalks, no public transit, no regulations to encourage more dense construction.
Education still seems to have issues, many still have massive student loan debt with no cancellation in sight.
Honestly the only effects I’ve seen biden actually cause are: sending money to ukraine, passing a “stimulus” which lead to massive inflation and increased prices of things, and… that’s about it?
Trickle down is awful, but biden hasn’t seem to done anything to move away from that model.
jerome ( @jerome@kbin.social ) 1•1 year agolol 5 people want trickle down bs.