- buckykat ( @buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 39•1 year ago
phillips worst screw self stripping garbage
- Omnomnom-oom ( @Omnomnom-oom@kbin.social ) 13•1 year ago
That is actually a feature of this design. They were the answer to in-line screwdrivers who had no precise stopping torque: cam-out before the thread is damaged.
- buckykat ( @buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 19•1 year ago
I know it’s an intentional feature, but it’s a bad feature. Camming out damages the head of the screw. This exchanges repairability for manufacturing simplicity. Additionally, the sloped shape makes it possible to use slightly oversized or undersized drivers, further increasing the chance of camming out and damaging the screwhead.
- motorwerks ( @motorwerks@sopuli.xyz ) 3•1 year ago
To your point it’s a compromised solution for a problem that no longer exists.
- Meh ( @RubberElectrons@lemmynsfw.com ) 1•1 year ago
Bug turned into a feature: https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:Cam_out
- Scary le Poo ( @Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org ) 32•1 year ago
Torx is the only head that needs to exist. The rest can go fuck a rusty chainsaw.
- YouShutYoMouf ( @YouShutYoMouf@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 15•1 year ago
Square is really good too.
Phillips and flat head bits fit in a variety of sizes of screw heads. We seem to have chosen convenience over performance.
- motorwerks ( @motorwerks@sopuli.xyz ) 5•1 year ago
If memory serves me correctly square drive is patented, & thus requires licensing, which is why it’s less commonly used.
- JZshark ( @JZshark@beehaw.org ) English6•1 year ago
Who the hell let someone patent a fucking SQUARE
- Scary le Poo ( @Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
Square is good for small screws. Under torque the head will tend to break or strip. That said, a torx head does everything a square head does, but better.
- Dogeek ( @Dogeek@lemmynsfw.com ) 1•1 year ago
Slotted heads, Philips, posidrive, torx, 6 pan and Robertson.
Each has a use, for instance a slotted head, when you don’t need much torque is good enough (like for a screwed in battery compartment).
- vreraan ( @vreraan@kbin.social ) 29•1 year ago
The torx are the most resistant, the rest can also cease to exist.
- MyFeetOwnMySoul ( @MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca ) 27•1 year ago
Anyone who willfully uses a slotted screw on a new project in the presence of even somewhat reasonable alternatives should have a lifetime ban on designing any items for anyone.
Also, use Robertsons, gink.
- PupBiru ( @PupBiru@kbin.social ) 11•1 year ago
it’s single valid use: somewhere that you may not have tools but might require an impromptu fix… preferably paired with a much larger screw than technically required so you can use things like coins as a driver
- nightauthor ( @nightauthor@kbin.social ) 8•1 year ago
Yeah, like mounting plates for cameras…. Um, I think that’s the only place I’ve appreciated a slot screw
- Lianrepl ( @Lianrepl@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
Sewing machine too! Always using scissors to open that slot screw to change the needle
- MyFeetOwnMySoul ( @MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca ) 1•1 year ago
No.
Thumbscrews, or wingnuts.
- Scrath ( @Scrath@feddit.de ) 22•1 year ago
Torx is great but fuck security torx
- nameisnotimportant ( @nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
security torx
Do you know what’s the deal with them except having to pay / find extra bits?
- CaptainLemmit ( @CaptainLemmit@feddit.it ) 7•1 year ago
If you’re determined enough you can jam a slot screwdriver in a torx and turn it, the security bit makes it so that you have to be REALLY determined when you jam the slot screwdriver in
- HikingVet ( @HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•1 year ago
You could drill your torx but (not advised) or drill the pin(?) on the screw.
- ArumiOrnaught ( @ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social ) 16•1 year ago
I strongly dislike how many times I’ve stripped a Phillips and used a die grinder to force it to become a flat. Torx is fine.
- Sir_Osis_of_Liver ( @Sir_Osis_of_Liver@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
I used to restore “barn bikes”, most of them were Japanese. It took me a while to figure out the difference between Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) and Phillips screws. Of course over the years, a lot of the fasteners had already been cammed out by previous owners using a Phillips screwdriver in a JIS screw. I had to resort to the die grinder method far more than I’d have preferred.
- AClassyGentleman ( @AClassyGentleman@lemmy.ml ) 15•1 year ago
Situation: There are 20 screw standards.
John Corporate: “20 standards… I know, I’ll create a new type of screw that will be unique to my corporate overlords and prevent users from repairing their own devices!”
Situation: There are 21 screw standards.
- Welder ( @i_r_weldr@lemmy.ca ) 15•1 year ago
Square is called a Robertson and is the standard for construction in Canada. None of that bullshit Phillips trash.
- OminousOrange ( @OminousOrange@lemmy.ca ) 4•1 year ago
The real “actual screw”.
- NetHandle ( @NetHandle@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
Canada is a very progressive place it seems
- JarmenKell ( @JarmenKell@kbin.social ) 14•1 year ago
Hex screws are sick tho. Great when there isnt much space to tighten regular screws.
- Sir_Osis_of_Liver ( @Sir_Osis_of_Liver@kbin.social ) 13•1 year ago
Torx or Robertson, are the only ones worth a damn.
- chaos rat ( @chaos_rat@slrpnk.net ) 1•1 year ago
I’m a Philips type of guy myself.
I like pluses and squares. Minuses need to be removed from existence
- Kakise ( @kakise@mlem.a-smol-cat.fr ) 15•1 year ago
Minus is great because you can use a butter knife on a pinch to unscrew/screw it
- s_s ( @s_s@lemmy.one ) 1•1 year ago
Pozidrive is both!
- HikingVet ( @HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org ) 11•1 year ago
Robertson, hex and torx should be on that list, the rest of that shit can stay in the scrap bin of designs
- FluffyBun98 ( @FluffyBun98@yiffit.net ) 9•1 year ago
Square drive on personal projects, forever and always. Maybe I’m buying the wrong torx, Phillips, and flat screws, but they strip out way too often. I’ve never had issues with square drive screws no matter where or how I use them
- catshit_dogfart ( @catshit_dogfart@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
Yup, anytime I’m driving into solid wood, it’s square head screws. Phillips heads slip out under the stress and end up stripped.
- bongo ( @bongo@lemmynsfw.com ) 2•1 year ago
Look at the history of Phillips screws. They’re designed to torque out. Automobile assembly line workers can’t be trusted to not overtighten them
- Meh ( @RubberElectrons@lemmynsfw.com ) 1•1 year ago
Bug turned into a feature: https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:Cam_out
- mcburgs ( @mcburgs@lemmynsfw.com ) 8•1 year ago
Americans will do anything the hardest way possible, huh lol
Robbie superiority.
- Invishiro ( @Invishiro@midwest.social ) 7•1 year ago
Square is my favorite but never used in industrial maintenance much. The square combos are on new electrical devices for construction though. I use mostly Phillips/slotted. A few security torx. Lots of hex heads, and all the small electrical terminals are slotted.