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 meiko60   ( @meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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 meiko60   ( @meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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Microsoft might just be planning to make the next generation of Windows a cloud-based, subscription service. While we have already had evidence of the former, fresh new leak hints at the latter too.
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  •  JackbyDev   ( @JackbyDev@programming.dev ) 
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    Y’all remember when Windows 10 was supposedly their last OS?

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      the last one you “buy”, anyway.

    •  Synthuir   ( @Synthuir@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Never obsolete!

      •  JackbyDev   ( @JackbyDev@programming.dev ) 
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        I remember reading about that and it is some subscription fee to get replacements. I always wonder if someone is still paying lol

    •  dan1101   ( @dan1101@lemm.ee ) 
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      That was so hilariously either ignorant or deceitful when they said that.

      •  𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘   ( @01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ) 
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        I reread that quote (in context) many times, and I’ve concluded that it was a poor choice of words. He meant “latest”. He was talking about Windows 10, the latest Windows OS, in a time where XP, 8, 8.1, Vista, and 7 were still maintained to some degree. I wish so much that Win10 would have been the last Windows OS…

  •  blindbunny   ( @blindbunny@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I look forward to welcoming all the new Linux users 🙂

    •  JoShmoe   ( @JoShmoe@ani.social ) 
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      Will you? Do you? To have and to hold? In sickness and in health?

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    And there’s NeoWin again with the Windows 12 clickbaits. This “leak” is just Windows 11 IoT Enterprise Subscription, and there’s absolutely nothing nowhere that even mentions the number 12.

    https://twitter.com/XenoPanther/status/1710027423981388161

    •  yukichigai   ( @yukichigai@kbin.social ) 
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      Yeah, this seems like the kind of thing they’d try to push on Business/Pro+ users, where management is willing to fork out absurd amounts of money monthly as long as the per-seat price can be vaguely justified. Doing this for home users would just be dumb. Plenty of people would see the monthly subscription and go “eh I don’t need a computer, I can just use my phone.”

    •  Razp   ( @Razp@lemm.ee ) 
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      But… But… But… Russian propaganda! Microsoft bad, Linux good!

  •  RandomVideos   ( @RandomVideos@programming.dev ) 
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    Linux usage on pc jumps to 72%

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      •  cally [he/they]   ( @callyral@pawb.social ) 
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        It’s called a graphical app store. Most distros meant for desktop usage that come with a desktop GUI have a software store. IIRC KDE’s Discover even has Flatpak support which leads to a higher variety of apps.

        Otherwise, you can install an AppImage, or just a .deb file if you’re running something Debian-based.

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            binaries (executables) go in /usr/bin, flatpaks are installed in their own sandboxes, appimages are wherever you put them.

            the shortcuts in application menus go in /usr/share/applications as .desktop files which link to the app, so the user generally won’t have to worry about where the executable is.

            why would the app store ask you where to install stuff??

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  •  Gianni R   ( @gianni@lemmy.ml ) 
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    And you’ll still hear “Well I know everything about Windows sucks and now I’m being charged out the ass, but I refuse to even consider switching because [one particular game doesn’t work / I’m used to it]”

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      I was asked why I can’t switch to Linux, so I replied listing the software I require Windows for, and then was called a fanboy and downvoted heavily…

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        It appears that the other guy didn’t call you a fanboy. He implied that you might be a troll, before you’d listed that software and after you’d called him a fanboy.

        But yeah, it’ll probably be a while before there’s a Linux version of Adobe Illustrator, and the alternatives are different enough that it’d be a lot of work to switch even if it’s otherwise practicable.

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        May I ask what sw is on that list?

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        Which is dumb. We want adoption, because there’s no other way that software will be portrs to Linux. I’m all for a libre base operating system, but I REALLY want some commercial software to be officially supported under Linux.

        That Bitwig is supported under Linux is a godsend for beatmakers and producers, but I want Ableton Live on Linux :( and also Affinity Designer. Inkscape is nice, and so is Krita, but there is no serious desktop publishing apps on Linux that focuses on usability AND productivity.

        The more users there are though, the bigger the chance is…

        So don’t listen to those bastard’s. A bunch of self-defeatists. May I suggest Vanilla 2.0 when it’s finished? :) Then you can try to run some of that software using Wine Bottles…

        …which doesn’t work for Affinity Designer :(

    •  lemmyvore   ( @lemmyvore@feddit.nl ) 
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      Remember that these are the same people that used to not think twice about $150 for Windows and Office added to their PC or laptop purchase price.

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      Dude we have to work, I don’t need windows at all in my life, but I have to work for a living

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    •  Harry_Houdini   ( @Harry_h0udini@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Choose either blue(Debian) or Fedora(RHEl)

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        Or choose btw (Arch)

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          I like Arch, but I don’t think it’s a good fit for the fed up with Windows crowd.

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    Cool, even more reason to stick with 10 as long as I can. Enshitify everything, who even cares anymore?

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    Will win 7 be the last ever usable OS from Microsoft, or will Windows 13 turn out decent? Only time will tell.

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      I think we already know. It’s not the technology but the business that spoiled everything since Windows 7. Technically, Windows is probably better than ever today. But for user experience it has never been worse.

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      Now that after two long years Windows 11 exited the alpha stage and now has an usable taskbar in beta, it starts to be decent. Since they finally allowed “never combine” in the taskbar last week I’m using it as my main os and I plan to upgrade all my win 10 machines (unless on older machines because I’m not going to bother with the artificial limitations and install checks, those will just go to Linux)

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    didn’t they say windows 10 was going to be the last version of windows? hence why they jumped to the number 10 as it’s nice and round.

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      I thought they jumped to it because ancient, poorly made software would check for Windows 9* to cover 95 and 98, and could now potentially catch windows 9 as well

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        Java was one of those poorly made software, but it seems stupid to program a check like that. What’s the chance that after Windows 98, Microsoft would release Windows 99? The check should just used the version number. If Windows 95 was 4.0 and Windows 98 was 4.1 should have done the check as “4.*” as a future compatible version could have been 4.2 (win me was 4.9) while one with so many changes that it might need a newer version of the app could have been 5.0 (windows 2000)

    •  WetBeardHairs   ( @WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml ) 
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      I said it was going to by my last version of Windows. Coincidence?

    •  SokathHisEyesOpen   ( @Anticorp@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Yes, but they’ve always been liars.

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    Since when has windows 11 been deprecated? After windows 7 I switched to Linux and all I hear is new windows is around the corner and even worse! How does this company even keep customers, when all they do is upgrade their windows?!

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      Microsoft only ever sticks to every other distribution of Windows because those are the ones that suck the least.

      XP > good Vista > bad 7 > good 8 > nightmare nightmare nightmare 10 > good 11 > bad

      Tho if 12 is subscription based this will change obv.

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        Anything after 7 is bad in my eyes. I HATE the direction Windows went with the UI style, doing away with the Vista and 7 Aero look. Plus Windows 10 drives me up the wall trying to find the proper settings (is it Settings or Control Panel? Why do we have both?!).

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          7 was the GOAT but i use 10 now and its almost indistinguishable from what i remember from 7 after tweaking some settings. I do agree that finding your settings can be annoying af.

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          Moving settings around is just user hostile behavior. Fucking psychos.

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        You skipped 8.1, which was good.

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          we dont talk about 8.1

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    Seems like an odd direction when a lot services are moving online and to SaaS based solutions, removing the dependency of a specific underlying OS.

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    This is what happens when one part of their business (Game Pass) does well and they want to translate that success to other operations. What they don’t realize is that Windows is less a product and more a service, and you can’t make money on services. Not for long, anyway.

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      The whole point of this is Microsoft potentially treating windows as a service

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        Right, but I meant a service in the traditional sense, like trains or food stamps or whatever. Windows is so ubiquitous with operating a PC at this point, and they’ve literally given it away for free for so long at this point that if they start charging a subscription for it nobody’s gonna go along with it. Microsoft’ll be in the same position they are now, but they’ll lose a lot of money implementing this BS.

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          Who isnt going to go along with it?

          Gotta be like 90% of people have never installed an OS because Windows was already on their PC when they bought it.

          To them, its part of buying a PC. They don’t consider the OS a separate purchase.

          If they make this move they’re banking on people not noticing until after they’ve bought a shiny new PC. After that most people will suffer the cost because they already own the PC and its just “easier.”

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    It’s a good idea, so the pain will end and it will die one and for all

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    Yeah, please do that. It will be great!

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    Remember the rumors over 10 years ago that Windows 8 was going to be a subscription OS?

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