ive been using kodi (xbmc was better moniker) since google killed sagetv. i recall attempting plex, but it seemed to lack some open/extensibility (its been awhile).
i have a side project i want to make as a modular plugin generating a cable layout with original air orders and networks/channels… kodi seems most optimal, but ill admit its been a long while since i looked at plex.
so why plex over kodi?
For me, Plex or Jellyfin is great if I want to share my library with some friends or family, especially non-technical people. Kodi really needs tinkering and you need debrid subscriptions and requires more local maintenance. It’s great for me but I wouldn’t want to teach my family how to use Kodi and me having to fix it when it breaks.
oh definitely. i use emby for remote access, but the tvs in the house all run a local (to the nas) instance of kodi
For local use it’s handy that those Kodi instances share their database so watched state and crucially how far into the episode/movie you are. You can do a shared database with just Kodi but I don’t think that’s optimal. Jellyfin integrates so well and handles the database stuff much better imo so I just use that.
You don’t need debrid for Kodi. There’s a torrent streaming app.
But yeah Kodi is a lot to teach if you’re talking about maintenance. I’ve also had some bugs on Ubuntu and Fedora.
I stay with Kodi because it’s faster ime and looks better (not the default skin) and works better with a remote. But I also keep jelly fin installed and running from the same nas.
Kodi for home, jellyfin for phones and guest homes. Trakt on both to keep them in sync.
Once I used Kodi with real-debrid, I don’t want to go back to streaming torrents. It is much faster and much more reliable.
My setup is a Shield TV Pro using Kodi with the Jellyfin plugin then use Umbrella for anything I don’t have locally. Gave my family a Firestick with Jellyfin and then they can request through Jellyseerr which then feeds through to *arr stack. I don’t mind if I have to fix my end but I don’t want to fix theirs.
oh definitely, im still on Emby, but it definitely required for remote access/viewing.
Totally different software solutions aimed at different users, and many people use both.
Plex is a Server software that handles media management, libraries, users, etc etc… and a range of player apps that have a somewhat beginner friendly layout requiring little to no setup
Personally, I run a large Plex server that provides content for my family across dozens of mixed devices in home and out of home, different users have access to different libraries and have different preferences. If needed it will automatically transcode content for remote users out of the home to fit my upload bandwidth and their available speed if they are on mobile. it keeps track of watched content and position for all users so they can move between devices seamlessly.
Kodi is an extensible media player frontend, it can play files from a remote server or NAS but there is no server management, it is just doing basic file access. there are addons for many common services and media sources but there is no user management, no transcoding, no sharing content with other clients etc etc. Having multiple kodi installs on multiple players requires each client to be configured more or less from scratch and no easy way to have multiple setups for different users with their own preferences, libraries and/or content restrictions. It is extremely powerful and configurable and has strong format support.
I have Kodi installed on one of my Nvidia Shield Pros but only use it for playback of surround music files (support for 5.1 flac on plex seems to be limited to audio within video containers for some reason) I find the interface (and all the skins I tried) extremely clunky for use as a music player, the way the remote works within the player itself is unintuitive and makes for an annoying experience restarting the track when you just want to move the playback a few seconds, a bit unfair of course as that isn’t what it was made for but that’s just my experience.
Same here. Plex just makes sharing with family so much simpler. My mom and dad can figure it out just as easily as my kids can and the amount of time I have to do tech support for anyone has been literal zero, which is a huge bonus for me, personally.
The real question is why anyone would use Kodi/Plex/XBMC over Jellyfin
Because my current TV is a Samsung so runs Tizen OS and thus doesn’t have an official Jellyfin app.
(I bought it before I ever got into NAS stuff and it still works fine so I’ll be damned if I buy another TV before this one stops working.)
Edit: A word.
Kodi works way better for local network content in my experience
Jellyfin is great and I follow its development and test it every now an then but it is nowhere near fully featured or well supported enough or me to transfer my family over to.
I will eventually, when it’s ready.
kodi is more ‘media center’…audio/video/static imaging…hell, plugins to gaming… jellyfin/emby is an excellent transcoding/end-user-streaming platform. i see them as complimentary to eachother
Kodi has a nicer interface imo. Kodi as the player and Jellyfin as the “backend” is a great combo imo.
The real question is why people pay for Plex when Jellyfin is free and open source
Been using Plex for 13+ years, have yet to pay a dime.
So much for hardware transcoding eh? lol
h264 and H265 (not 10bit) is so well supported that it is hardly an issue.
Have never needed it, almost all my media is just x264 so it’s working on every potato around. Not the same answer for everyone obviously, but useless for me.
Thats fair
You don’t have to pay for Plex.
I prefer jellyfin myself
Well, I use plex, because I have used plex for a decade, and it just works.
That being said, if I were to use an alternative, Jellyfin is quite fantastic. I actually have a pod running it, just in the event that plex pulls a stupid move, causing me to lose faith in its platform.
But, that being said, I like the plex interface more then Jellyfin, and have grown accustomed to it.
Also, Kodi while powerful and extensible… just feels like a bear compared to Jellyfin.
those arent even the same thing
I can use Plex on my PS5 and share it with my friends without having to do DevOps work.
Plex was an easy to set up Netflix at home deal with apps on all my devices already for viewing ($5 one time fee for Android, less than a burger) and had some nice tutorials for setting up on a Pi.
Adding stuff is literally drag drop thanks to Samba. Stupid easy for me.
Watch status syncing and the need to configure each device kinda sucks on Kodi. Great app nonetheless
Much easier to set up and share with others. Kodi takes a lot of back end work to make it usable and I’m having a hell of a time getting consistent results to different devices from my NAS.
Plex took far less effort to do the same results but their paywall certainly justifies their ease of use
Strange. Kodi for me was a breeze to set up. Set up a file source, set the client to update library on start up, tweak your thumbnails and skin preferences, done.
My difficulty lies in consistency across multiple devices, it’s a process that i haven’t been able to overcome easily and though i learned SQL my NAS is a bit closed though so I may upgrade that soon
Because I paid for a lifetime sub like a decade ago and my parents and a few friends connect to my instance. I can’t be arsed to move myself and everybody else to a new system when this shit just works.
My issue with Kodi is that each client had to scan the library and generate thumbnails etc. That should be the server’s job which is why I chose Jellyfin. Nicer UI too and more responsive with apps in stores so I don’t have to load it manually to fire sticks
This is true, it’s just not that much of a hassle if you only have 1 or 2 clients. Anymore, and yeah I can appreciate Kodi setup can get messy.
- Rikudou_Sage ( @rikudou@lemmings.world ) English7•1 year ago
Because Kodi is just confusing. When I got my first Android TV, I was reading about Plex and Kodi everywhere. So I tried both. I never even figured out how to make Kodi do a similar thing to what I had with Plex.
Granted, Plex sucks nowadays and I’ll be migrating somwhere else, but it definitely isn’t going to be Kodi - it was confusing and ugly.
I just use nova on my tv, it works better than kodi. And it actually works
I’ll cast my vote: Kodi is far superior to Plex. People are just too lazy to learn something. I have a library larger than Netflix and Kodi makes browsing it very simple.
For multi device jellyfin or Plex(which is terrible now compared to before) is way better, sure you can make Kodi do it but it’s never been good at that
I have a multimedia server with jellyfin and even the dumbest clients can play off it some way.
To each their own. I run a NAS as the main source of data in my network and the files are encoded as h.265 2160p 10bit. I don’t need another transcode step because my systems are all capable of decoding h.265 10bit in real time. To force my NAS to do another transcode would be stupid, IMO.
To force my NAS to do another transcode would be stupid, IMO.
yeah, i dont understand the attempt to get the nas to do more than being a nas. its busy bein nas.
I agree. I disable transcoding and use direct play. Jellyfin is a multi device library for the files on my nas.
