dark_stang ( @dark_stang@beehaw.org ) English23•9 months agoIt’s not inevitable, you could stop apartheid.
You think that Israel should ignore that a thousand of their citizens were slaughtered?
dark_stang ( @dark_stang@beehaw.org ) English24•9 months agoI wonder what could have provoked an attack like. Perhaps decades of oppressive occupation. Constantly escalating violence isn’t going to fix this. But Israel is the side that can choose to end it by ending apartheid. All the imprisoned can do to improve their situation is try to fight out of it.
This is one of those justification posts. To which I always respond that there is no justification for the various atrocities committed by Hamas. To which you respond with something about Israeli oppression. To which I respond that it still doesn’t justify the vile and nasty nature of Hamas action and if your moral compass says it does I feel sorry for you. Then I slowly get bored with your inane ideology. Good. So that’s it.
- Hot Saucerman ( @dingus@lemmy.ml ) English15•9 months ago
So you agree that both sides are doing terrible things and there are no good guys in this situation? Just innocents caught in the middle.
Lmaydev ( @Lmaydev@programming.dev ) 14•9 months agoThey’ve killed almost 1000 in Gaza now. Are you suggesting hamas shouldn’t ignore that? When does it end.
It is war. It ends when one side gives up or is destroyed.
Lmaydev ( @Lmaydev@programming.dev ) 9•9 months agoEither side giving up will be genocide. Or destroyed, which is again genocide.
So essentially your idea of resolution is genocide.
Not my idea. Name a war that ended differently.
Lmaydev ( @Lmaydev@programming.dev ) 6•9 months agoWW2. We didn’t slaughter everyone in Germany.
WWII ended with one side surrendering. There was quite a lot of slaughter before that happened.
ram ( @ram@bookwormstory.social ) English11•9 months agoBoth the Israeli government and Hamas are wrong and bad. The Israeli people and Palestinians are both indigenous to the land they share, and both have the right to live there. The median age of Palestine is under 20, the people many people in this thread are justifying the genocide of are majority children, because their parents have been killed by the Israel government in an apartheid state. The solution Netanyahu will take will be genocide of Palestinian people, when Hamas is to blame.
katy ✨ ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 7•8 months agonot committing war crimes, apartheid, and genocide is a good option
khalic ( @khalic@beehaw.org ) 2•8 months agoSo, they should accept the massacre and feel bad about themselves?
katy ✨ ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 6•8 months agothey shouldn’t respond to an attack by killing innocent civilians also they’ve been brutally dehumanitizing and terrorising Palestinians in Gaza for years
khalic ( @khalic@beehaw.org ) 4•8 months agoThe deliberate targeting of civilians is horrible. But it’s well documented that hamas uses people as meat shields, by using civilian buildings as ammo depots and rocket launching platforms. That’s, unfortunately, a fair target then…
katy ✨ ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 4•8 months agogaza is literally a small territory surrounded by water and israel where do you think people would be that aren’t targets for missles that level entire city blocks?
khalic ( @khalic@beehaw.org ) 3•8 months agoIsrael definitely could have avoided this, and not fuck up the whole situation so much, but it’s not a simple matter… and self defense is a simple matter… if someone shoots at you, you kill them. That’s what happens when you take a gun. If you massacre a bunch of civilians, then people are going to shoot at you and your accomplices with passion
katy ✨ ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•8 months agobut then doesn’t that mean palestinians have a right to self defence?
khalic ( @khalic@beehaw.org ) 2•8 months agoMilitary targets yes, if there is a missile launcher or ammo in an israeli building, yes it is a valid target. You have to right to kill anyone who’s actively trying kill you.
Gotta say that bringing up 300,000+ troops in 72 hours is very impressive.
El_Dorado ( @El_Dorado@beehaw.org ) 17•9 months agoI guess they just have huge numbers available also due to the fact that almost all women and men are in the military service and hence reservists