"The targeting of civilians is a war crime, no matter who does it," said Sanders, one of the most prominent Jewish politicians in America.
  •  queermunist she/her   ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 
    43•1 year ago

    Sanders also reiterated his prior condemnation of the Hamas attack, calling it a “major setback for any hope of peace and reconciliation in the region – and justice for the Palestinian people.”

    There was never any hope of peace and reconciliation and justice. 🙄

  •  RaincoatsGeorge   ( @RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip ) English
    29•1 year ago

    I know the rawness of such a vicious terrorist attack will cloud judgment and leave the Israelis furious and wanting blood. For any American who fails to understand this, imagine if 9/11 had been caused by a group of people living in a cordoned off part of New Mexico. We would have carpet bombed the ever loving fuck out of it and killed the majority of the people there. The only reason we didn’t have a swift full force military response after 9/11 is because we had to get assets to the region which took time.

    I’ve watched these videos of Israel dropping buildings left and right. I certainly hope these are confirmed terrorist targets but there’s just a whole lot of them and I suspect many of them have civilians inside. I know we are currently in the ‘Israel can do no wrong and we stand by them’ phase but where is the line drawn? Does this terrorist attack justify genocide? Im not inclined to believe so. But I also know after 9/11 I wouldn’t have given a shit if we did genocide an entire group if they were responsible. I would have been wrong, but my point is we lived through that seething rage ourselves and it took us years to collectively calm ourselves.

    I don’t know what the answer is. Obviously they have to respond. But what’s the line you draw? It would not surprise me if in a few months the opinions of the global public once again shift back to horror and condemnation of Israel as the reality of this response is made public.

    •  regul   ( @regul@lemm.ee ) 
      17•1 year ago

      You know the US does have groups of people cordoned off in New Mexico? We have similar situations all over the US. They’re called Indian Reservations and we did regularly massacre the people that lived there (Wounded Knee being the most famous example).

      But at least by 1924 we gave Native Americans citizenship and therefore the right of free movement. It only took about 150 years but they at least got basic rights eventually, even if the discrimination and violence continues.

      Israel can’t even meet the standards of decency that America, a continuously not-decent country figured out for itself before Israel even existed.

      •  RandomException   ( @RandomException@sopuli.xyz ) 
        4•1 year ago

        I’m curious, what exactly gives a sense of OP being an Israel supporter? I read the post as good pondering about the reasoning for Israel’s reactions and some good analogy for US readers through the 9/11 attacks and reactions for it.

        It’s pretty much required that a nation will either defend themselves or even counterattack heavily if someone attacks them or otherwise they won’t stay independent very long (see Ukraine currently or Europe in 1930-1940s) and understanding that doesn’t make someone automatically a supporter of either side. Now, it’s a good thing to discuss about the size of Israel’s reaction because completely destroying another country over a terrorist attack is not going to end up well either. This is something where the 9/11 comparison works well in my mind.

  •  AutoTL;DR   ( @autotldr@lemmings.world ) BEnglish
    9•1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    “For many, it is no secret that Gaza has been an open-air prison, with millions of people struggling to secure basic necessities,” Sanders said in a statement issued on Wednesday.

    “Israel’s blanket denial of food, water, and other necessities to Gaza is a serious violation of international law and will do nothing but harm innocent civilians.”

    Sanders also reiterated his prior condemnation of the Hamas attack, calling it a “major setback for any hope of peace and reconciliation in the region – and justice for the Palestinian people.”

    Sanders is among the most prominent Jewish politicians in America, and during his presidential campaigns in 2016 and 2020, he was notably far more critical of Israel than most Democrats.

    His comments are largely in line with those of progressive “Squad” members in the House, who have called for a cease-fire in the wake of the Hamas attack.

    Some of those lawmakers have also used the word “apartheid” to describe Israeli’s occupation of the West Bank and blockade of Gaza, a term that’s used by numerous international human rights groups but is largely eschewed by American politicians.

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