• Izzy ( IzzyData@lemmy.ml ) 
    14·
    3 years ago

    I hope to some day live somewhere that allows me to take a train to where I want to go mid to long distance and the ability to walk short distance to the rest.

  • Rhaedas ( Rhaedas@kbin.social ) 
    11·
    3 years ago

    The only issue I have with this take is how it ignores how the changes happened over decades, not overnight. Of course no one would choose any of these pictures, but that’s not how it started out, and the slow changes is exactly why we bought into the idea. It also can’t be easily undone or changed, even in a progressive society.

  • Wage_slave ( Wage_slave@lemmy.ml ) 
    11·
    3 years ago

    Even while having a car, I found my self taking transit anyways. To the point where both my daughters (15 and 17) have absolutely no desire to get a car or their drivers because not only do they see what’s happening to the climate, but know transit well enough that vehicles are next to pointless for them. My understanding is that many, not all, of their friends thing the same way, too.

    That, and I don’t care if you drive a BMW. My ride costs 150k, and comes with a driver who opens the door for me. Fuck cars and the status that goes with 'em, too.

  • ancap shark ( pipows@lemmy.today ) 
    9·
    3 years ago

    Here’s the thing: I live in a mid sized city in Brazil. As in America, Brazil is very car centric (thanks, Kubitschek). But there’s no trains. The capital city of my state has a single urban train line, and I think it’s the only in the whole state, that’s as big as France.

    Your options here are:

    • use a car and endure the traffic;
    • get a poor planned, crowded and falling apart bus, and endure the traffic, because they rarely have exclusive lanes;
    • get a motorcycle, so you can split lanes and get through the traffic, but risking your life and not being able to carry more than one (adult) person and a handful of small items;
    • or use a bicycle in this very hilly and mountainous place, with close to no infrastructure to make it less risky.

    I chose to use a motorcycle (although I couldn’t afford one yet because we’re poor), but I understand that for anyone with a family, owning a car is not a choice, it’s a necessity (and it’s a very expensive one)

    • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє ( SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
      10·
      3 years ago

      People who advocate for better public transportation usually also advocate for walkable neighborhoods. Your grandparents would not need a car to go to grocery, it’ll be at a walking distance. Same for doctors.

      As for emergencies, yes, a car would be nice. But you can always get a can in that situation. No need to destroy the planet every other day.

      Let me ask you this, have you ever done anything outside of a car only dystopia?

        • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє ( SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
          5·
          3 years ago

          Are you willingly missing the point? Those town exist like this due to having a car centered society. Look at any other country where car isn’t the only means of transportation. Towns are closer together, with shared infrastructure so that such a situation does not arise in the first place. That’s what everyone’s advocating for. No one’s calling you a monster for using cars in a car dependent society. But realize that things can be better, and vote for change whenever possible.

          And about the privileged thing, I literally grew up in rural India lol.

          Edit: Also, who called you any word? Don’t play victim here.

    • Neato ( Neato@kbin.social ) 
      6·
      3 years ago

      In places designed before/not for cars you’d have places within walking distance like groceries. In the doctor scenario, we’ve had adult diapers for a long time. Your solution is you let them pee in your car?

        • Neato ( Neato@kbin.social ) 
          1·
          3 years ago

          It’s a very slow work day, honestly.

          And more importantly: it’s rare I post a rebuttal just for the person I’m responding to. Most people aren’t going to be swayed if they made an emotional argument. It’s for everyone else who sees it. Also me. It feels good to get thoughts out, sometimes.

      • s20 ( s20@lemmy.ml ) 
        1·
        3 years ago

        In the doctor scenario, we’ve had adult diapers for a long time. Your solution is you let them pee in your car?

        And your solution is they shit themselves on public transportation?

        I mean, I’m 100% for better public transportation and urban centers designed around walking, but let’s compare apples to apples here.

        They didn’t make a straw man argument, they had a point. It’s a genuine issue and they deserve better than a flippant remark telling them to make grandpa wear diapers so he can piss himself on his walk from the bus stop.

        • Neato ( Neato@kbin.social ) 
          1·
          3 years ago

          And your solution is they shit themselves on public transportation?

          Do you not understand how incontinence works? Someone who can’t hold their bowels or bladder wears diapers, full-stop. Sometimes this is due to an underlying issue that can be fixed, sometimes not. In either case the person has to wear adult diapers at least some of the time.

          I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make. This person will be wearing diapers regardless of their transport. But you seem to disagree if they are being driven in a car. Therefore, would you allow an incontinent person to not wear diapers in your car, where they may have an accident?

          • s20 ( s20@lemmy.ml ) 
            1·
            3 years ago

            My point is that the “piss in the car” comment was mean, thoughtless, and added nothing. If grandpa is incontinent, then he’ll wear diapers regardless of the car or the bus.

            Your comment was either a.) implying that messing themselves in public was better than in relative privacy, or b.) if you use a car, grandpa doesn’t get to wear Depends.

            Take your pick.

            It might not be what you meant, but you were too busy being a jerk to notice that it’s what you said.

    • utopiah ( utopiah@lemmy.ml ) 
      1·
      3 years ago

      anything outside of a big city?!

      The photos OP is sharing are depicting 10 or more lanes. That’s precisely about a big city. Meanwhile the situation you describe, e.g doctor 20km away, no train/bus access, seems to be about not a big city. I believe you two are not talking about the same problem even though both are valid.

  • Ech ( ech@lemm.ee ) English
    3·
    3 years ago

    I get this is absurd on purpose, but I don’t think having a decent amount of groceries on hand is crazy. I don’t drive and I aim to not have to go to the store every other day. 2 weeks seems about right for grocery store frequency.

    • kugel7c ( kugel7c@feddit.de ) 
      2·
      3 years ago

      From my perspective it’s sorta crazy. How does one even have the space for several weeks of perishable groceries, or move them effectively from the store home. It all seems like so much wasted space.

      Also how does one plan buying all you potential cravings for two weeks. I sorta don’t get it, emotionally I don’t.

      I encourage you to try living a <10min walk from a grocery store if you ever get the chance. Right now I’m at< 3min to walking to the grocery store. It’s the best. Especially if it’s open till midnight or god forbid 24/7.