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silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) M to Climate@slrpnk.netEnglish · 3 years ago

Fossil Fuel Power Plants Kill 35x More Birds Than Wind Turbines

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Fossil Fuel Power Plants Kill 35x More Birds Than Wind Turbines

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silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) M to Climate@slrpnk.netEnglish · 3 years ago
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One of the most effective ways to protect birds is to transition away from fossil fuels
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  • Miclux ( Miclux@lemmings.world ) BannedBanned
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    • silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) OP
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      It’s a standard troll argument, yeah.

      • stabby_cicada ( stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net ) 
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        There are “grassroots” movements claiming significant environmental damage from converting farmland to solar farms. Seriously.

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      Over here, there have been groups who put dead birds (often roadkill) underneath wind turbines.

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      I think it’s because they can see the birds that turbines kill. The birds killed the the pollution fossil fuels cause are hard to notice and especially hard to link to the cause of death. When there’s dead birds around a turbine, it’s more obvious.

      People don’t look at numbers. They’re driven by emotions, which favour what they can easily see and wrap their heads around. Or alternatively, what they are most scared of. Eg, nuclear power is far safer and less radioactive than coal. But that doesn’t matter. People are afraid of nuclear because of past incidents they heard about. The way coal kills people is so much harder to notice than a dramatic HBO series.

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    And infinity% more than nuclear!!

    • MrMakabar ( MrMakabar@slrpnk.net ) 
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      Habitat loss due to uranium mining is certainly a thing. As is heating up of rivers for cooling the plant.

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    Skimmed the article for the reason of bird death.

    They look at habitat loss due to fossil fuel mining and at the impact of acid rain caused by burning fossil fuels and mentioned climate change.

    I have a feeling that these numbers could be shadowed when looking at the deaths caused by air pollution from coal plants. But I guess that must be difficult to assess.

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