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stabby_cicada ( stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net )  to Climate@slrpnk.net · 3 years ago

DOJ sues eBay for selling ‘rolling coal’ devices; fines could hit $2 billion

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DOJ sues eBay for selling ‘rolling coal’ devices; fines could hit $2 billion

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stabby_cicada ( stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net )  to Climate@slrpnk.net · 3 years ago
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Rolling coal is the practice of tampering with a vehicle's emissions control system, causing it to spew black clouds of sooty exhaust.
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  • floofloof ( floofloof@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Rolling coal is the practice of installing a tampering device to pump more diesel into a vehicle’s engine than it can handle, leading it to spew out sooty black clouds of exhaust that pollute the air.

    The practice is sometimes used as a form of anti-environmental protest. Coal rollers, or the drivers who engage in the action, may intentionally target Teslas, Priuses or other electric or hybrid vehicles.

    Some people’s dedication to being an asshole is quite astonishing. Imagine paying money just to be able to spew soot at other people’s electric cars.

    • PersnickityPenguin ( PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ) 
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      It’s also a practice to used to attack other drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclist etc by blowing black soot in your face. Its often dangerous because it creates a smoke screen where you can’t even see the road.

    • TQuid ( TQuid@beehaw.org ) 
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      Their favourite target is cyclists, as you might expect.

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    As a person who enjoys clean air I approve of this.

    • remotelove ( remotelove@lemmy.ca ) 
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      As a person, I approve of this.

      • not_amm ( not_amm@beehaw.org ) 
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        I approve

    • PersnickityPenguin ( PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ) 
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      As a mammal with lungs I approve.

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    Good, fuck those guys.

    I’m not against people having trucks or modifying them for performance or off-roading or whatever, but people who modify their truck for no other reason than to pollute more are nothing but fucking assholes.

    • NuPNuA ( NuPNuA@lemm.ee ) 
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      It makes me laugh as in the UK a vehicle bellowing smoke due to an old or broken down engine has always been an indicator of someone being broke and unable to fix it upgrade it, these wankers are intentionally making their trucks look like they’re skin flints.

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  • Reality Suit ( Reality_Suit@lemmy.one ) 
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    The bigger the truck, the more fragile the man.

    • StringTheory ( StringTheory@beehaw.org ) 
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      These are the same folks who think that the pinnacle of comedy is farting as you leave a crowded room.

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    Wait… Ebay is merely a marketplace where people or vendors use the platform to sell their goods.

    Shouldn’t the individuals be sued?

    Or maybe it’s because they could be in another country, so they go after the platform itself for allowing such devices to be sold?

    • Vode An ( Vode_An@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Going after the marketplace is a more efficient strategy than playing whack a mole with individual sellers.

      • Gormadt ( Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Also being a marketplace they do have a duty to make sure that people are not selling illegal items on their platform.

        Because if platforms didn’t could you imagine how bad the Internet would be for buying things.

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          I don’t disagree. I am generally in favor of keeping markets on a short leash. As you said, it could be a lot worse.

          • Gormadt ( Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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            Exactly, keeping markets on a shorter leash is also something I’m generally in favor of

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        The correct way would be to go after the buyers

        • DeepFriedDresden ( DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social ) 
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          The war on drugs would like a word.

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            As would the RIAA’s war on piracy. Despite the exhorbitant fines being handed down, I don’t believe they’ve made any profit from them.

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          That’s a political bomb though. This accomplishes the same end goal and is a strong enough warning to prevent similar markets popping up in the future

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            Well they are illegal, although enforcement is up to the local jurisdiction. If you try to install these in California for instance, you will have a bad day and they can and will impound your vehicle.

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        It’s confusing because I kinda agree with some of your stereotyping and I’m not confident that is a good thing.

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          It’s not a good thing, its a way to divide us and make us hate. Don’t fall into that.

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      I dunno, the article is pretty weak on details. Curious what comes of it.

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      I agree, hitting a couple of these sellers and manufacturers with multi-million dollar fines would be fucking great. They have to go onto X and complain to their drifting buddies that the only way to support Trump would be to bail them out of jail.

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    interesting they’re not going after Amazon for the same thing

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      Hopefully that’s a “Not yet,” but we’ll see

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      Hopefully reviewers that care will step out and share how crazy the company is. They are full-bore disregarding the entirety of the manual suggesting how to legally sell things.

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    Good.

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    Ebay denied the charges in a public statement, saying it has blocked “more than 99.9% the listings for the products cited by the DOJ, including millions of listings each year.”

    A court will determine if that claim is true, but if yes, EBay as a market platform won’t be liable. A 99.9% interception rate would indicate a considerable effort to prevent illicit trades.

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    I don’t know about other states, but in Texas they don’t even test diesel emissions during our annual registration / inspection. Totally ridiculous!

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    Is this a first posture against Amazon? They’ve been selling fake UL listed (terrible, terrible electrically charged garbage) for years and they have never gotten a take down notice. Clipping on a nightlight outlet face-plate to energized (you can’t turn these off with a light switch) active terminals is the craziest one I’ve soon so far.

    edit: Amazon has sold 100k of these, this should be an insurance nightmare…

    light arcing > corroded metal > more resistance > fire.

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