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- bekazprawakow@szmer.info
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That moment when you are walking down the street and you accidentally tread in a steaming pile of irony.
- IAmWiking ( @IAmWiking@beehaw.org ) English23•1 year ago
As it says in the article, he’s been designated a PEP because he allegedly took money from the Russian government. He denies this but hasn’t sued the person making the allegation. Even in his rant on GB news he lists Ukraine first as a potential state known for bribery. He excuses Russian actions at every turn, it’s clear he’s getting something from them.
- zero_iq ( @zero_iq@lemm.ee ) English8•1 year ago
He denies this but hasn’t sued the person making the allegation.
He can’t, because it was said under parliamentary privilege. An MP (in this case, Chris Bryant) cannot be sued for statements made in Parliament.
I’m not going to defend Farage (I think he’s a slimeball) but the fact he hasn’t sued is not evidence either way.
- herriott101 ( @herriott101@kbin.social ) 7•1 year ago
He denies this but hasn’t sued the person making the allegation’
He can’t sue the person who made the allegation. It was an MP who made the allegation in the House of Commons. This means that the MP is protected by Parliamentary Privilege which allows an MP to say whatever they want while in parliament. Very important for allowing MPs to have proper debate without interference.
However, having said that. I definitely think he did accept money from Russia (the truth is also a defence against being sued!). He appeared on Russia Today (state propaganda) a lot.
- IAmWiking ( @IAmWiking@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
Thanks for the correction. I didn’t realise the MP making the allegation was speaking in the commons.
- sab ( @sab@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
I guess there is the off chance that he’s just a complete moron, and bought into Russian state propaganda without even being paid for it.
- tal ( @tal@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
He denies this but hasn’t sued the person making the allegation
Setting aside the issue of whether-or-not he has received money, I don’t think that it’s a great idea to make the expected norm for someone to sue someone else if they’re innocent of something that someone claims that they did. Kind of results in everyone running around with lawyers on hair-trigger.
- Anomandaris ( @Anomandaris@kbin.social ) 3•1 year ago
Between normal people, or even minor celebrities, I would absolutely agree. But Farage is a notable entity in politics and journalism, one would hope that being accused of corruption, bribery, and treason would be ruinous for such a career. That is absolutely the sort of thing you would sue over, if you believed you had a good chance at winning.
- IAmWiking ( @IAmWiking@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
Oh, I completely agree, but right wing grifters have a proud tradition of using libel laws to shut down criticism like this. Another commenter has explained that Farage can’t actually sue in this case since the allegation is protected by Parliamentary Privilige, which probably explains why.
- Hyperreality ( @Hyperreality@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
Could also be a useful idiot.
Plenty of people shill for the current regime because they’ve bought the propaganda and the christian nationalism it pushes.
- Floppy ( @Floppy@beehaw.org ) English18•1 year ago
Maybe he could fuck off to Rwanda, I hear all the brexiters think it’s amazing.
- Naich ( @Naich@kbin.social ) 12•1 year ago
Why not go and find another country to ruin, you cunt?
- mobyduck648 ( @mobyduck648@beehaw.org ) 7•1 year ago
We’ve made enough questionable foreign policy decisions over the centuries, I think we should make him the live-in governor of the British Antarctic Territory. Or not, he’ll probably somehow start a culture war between the Emperor and Adélie penguins.
- Maestro ( @Maestro@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
Don’t throw your garbage in the neighbors yard. Keep him and deal with him yourself. Don’t let him escape the mess he made.
- Chetzemoka ( @Chetzemoka@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
Let’s face it, this was always their plan from the beginning. Those who have enough wealth to move anywhere in the world they want were never going to be the ones negatively impacted by Brexit, so why should they care? Pass the legislation, get their payday from their sponsors, then flee the country leaving the little guy to suffer the consequences.
- OrkneyKomodo ( @OrkneyKomodo@latte.isnot.coffee ) English6•1 year ago
Shame we didn’t decide to make him stateless under our archaic terrorism laws.
- ArugulaZ ( @ArugulaZ@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
Head toward the light, Nigel! Never mind the flames and pitchforks!
- Baggins ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) English5•1 year ago
He’s free to leave, perhaps his German wife could take him home?
- VanillaGorilla ( @VanillaGorilla@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
Nah, thanks. We don’t want him. Maybe if he doesn’t like life in UK he should try death in UK? I heard it’s beautiful.
- Hyperreality ( @Hyperreality@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
Seperated for years.
Last I checked he’s been linked to Laure Ferrari. Let’s go on a wikipedia adventure:
Laure Ferrari (* 6 October 1979, Épinal, France) has been a close associate of former UKIP leader Nigel Farage, and has been working for several right-wing to far-right political organizations and parties, including the French nationalist party (Debout la France). Ferrari was head of the Institute for Direct Democracy in Europe (IDDE), a Eurosceptic think tank, which was accused in 2017 of having illegally diverted public money to the benefits of UKIP.[1] Ferrari was also founding member of “The Mouvement,” together with Mischaël Modrikamen and his wife Yasmine Dehaene-Modrikamen,[2] which in 2018 was joined and promoted by Steve Bannon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laure_Ferrari
Mischaël Modrikamen (born 22 February 1966)[1] is a Belgian right wing politician and lawyer. … In March 2015, Modrikamen was invited on an official visit to Russia by the Russian government and met officials at the Duma. Modrikamen, himself a strong believer in the transatlantic alliance, nevertheless announced that “we” should find some accommodation with Russia on the Crimea and Ukraine crisis. … Modrikamen is the only Belgian political leader to have endorsed Trump, and this from the early beginning of his campaign among Republican contenders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischa%C3%ABl_Modrikamen
Reuters reported on October 31, 2018, that the Senate Intelligence Committee is conducting a “wide-ranging” investigation of Bannon’s activities during the campaign, including knowledge he may have had about any contacts between Russia and two campaign advisors, George Papadopoulos and Carter Page, as well as his role with Cambridge Analytica.[148] … In August 2020 members of the senate intelligence committee told the DOJ they believed that Bannon, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. may have misled them with their testimony about Russia investigation. … Bannon has defended Trump’s ties to and praise for Russian president Vladimir Putin.[357][372] He expressed a belief that traditionalists see Russia as an ally. Bannon said they “believe that at least Putin is standing up for traditional institutions, and he’s trying to do it in a form of nationalism—and I think that people, particularly in certain countries, want to see the sovereignty for their country. They want to see nationalism for their country” rather than a “pan-European Union”.[372] According to the book War for Eternity, Bannon met notorious Russian ideologue Aleksandr Dugin in Rome in 2018 to advocate closer relations between the United States and Russia, as well as Traditionalist philosophy … [etc. etc. etc. etc.]
- sab ( @sab@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
It’s disturbing how much evidence exists that all these right wing parties and politicians are Russian shills, yet it somehow seems to keep escaping common knowledge.
- Deceptichum ( @Deceptichum@kbin.social ) 3•1 year ago
The thing is, even when it comes public knowledge they still tolerate it.
- Baggins ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
He can go to France then.
- 𝕸𝖗. 𝕮𝖔𝖒𝖗𝖆𝖉𝖊 𝕿𝖆𝖈𝖔 ( @MrComradeTaco@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English5•1 year ago
Maybe it’s worth living in another place of the globe.
- LSNLDN ( @LSNLDN@beehaw.org ) English5•1 year ago
It’s a fantastic cure for racism I hear
- FlanFlinger ( @FlanFlinger@lemmy.ml ) English3•1 year ago
You’d think so, sadly it didn’t cure the Brits living in Spain from voting for Brexit, and I’ve met a couple of them here in Ireland that still think everyone else is the foreigner and not them.
- LSNLDN ( @LSNLDN@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
I know the type you mean, they make me ashamed of my country. But I also wouldn’t want to worship my country so that’s sort of fine?! Idk lol hope that archetype of human dies out
- keeb420 ( @keeb420@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
so you want to move to a better place because where you live isnt good enough?
nope, sorry. you cant immigrate you immigrate hating piece of shit.
- petrescatraian ( @petrescatraian@libranet.de ) 4•1 year ago
“I think the reason for it was, you know, where people in politics are open to bribery.
“Could foreign governments from Ukraine or China or wherever else it may be, could they be pumping money into, you know, the accounts of corrupt politicians.
I meaaaaaaaaaaan…
Of course, there is a government who’s jurisdiction stretches from Ukraine to China. It’s, of course, the Russian Government.