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kid2908 ( kid2908@slrpnk.net )  to Movies and TV Shows@lemmy.filmEnglish · 3 years ago

Disney Mocked for Ludicrously Fake CGI "Actors" in Crowd Scene

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Disney Mocked for Ludicrously Fake CGI "Actors" in Crowd Scene

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kid2908 ( kid2908@slrpnk.net )  to Movies and TV Shows@lemmy.filmEnglish · 3 years ago
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Disney has come under fire after a video resurfaced showing horribly CGI-generated background actors in the movie "Prom Pact."

cross-posted from: https://derp.foo/post/317313

There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.

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  • DarkThoughts ( DarkThoughts@kbin.social ) 
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    AI? Looks rather like low tier CGI instead. Most “crowds” are CGI, have been for many years. They’re just usually made in a higher quality to hide it better.

    • Toribor ( Toribor@corndog.social ) 
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      In The Phantom Menace the crowds for the podracing scenes were just painted cotton swabs. They blew a fan at them to make them move.

      https://i.imgur.com/s6fTbR1.jpg

      • 567PrimeMover ( 567PrimeMover@kbin.social ) 
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        That’s actually really cool. Practical effects and creativity >>>>>> lazy CGI.

      • TonyTonyChopper ( TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ) 
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        https://youtu.be/bxN1xx-bdpM?si=4cn0Jzlh6LiHjfmk more at 17:57

      • rgb3x3 ( rgb3x3@beehaw.org ) 
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        That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all week.

    • HuddaBudda ( HuddaBudda@kbin.social ) 
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      This technology will get better, to the point I imagine most of us won’t be able to see the difference. Scary stuff all around.

      Though this shot is rather telling because that background character is “Center right” which basically gives it a spotlight. At that point, it is no longer a background, it is the scene.

      Though, it is a high-school teen sports Disney movie, so I am not expecting much in the form of creativity or effort.

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    That’s not even AI is it? It’s like a 90s Windows movie maker CG model

    • NigelFrobisher ( NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 
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      You’re wrong. Everything in a headline about a technology story is automatically AI.

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  • TheBlue22 ( TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    How the fuck can they be so greedy?

    They make bazillions of dollars per year (if not per month), and they are unwilling to pay just a bit of money for extras.

    Fuck film execs, I hope there is another strike.

    • 567PrimeMover ( 567PrimeMover@kbin.social ) 
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      We reach a new, comical level of greed, and then they find a way to top it.

      • lazylion_ca ( lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca ) 
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        This kind of thing isn’t new. [Here’s a clip](https://youtu.be/Zh7eAG2jJkA} from Three Amigos from 1986. The background characters are just a static painting.

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      Because we live in a system where paying more for doing the right thing will get fired and sued for lost profits as a CEO. If you run a publicly traded company, you are legally beholden to make the decision that yields the most profit, full stop.

      • lazylion_ca ( lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca ) 
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        I keep seeing people regurgitate this nonsense.

        Source or gtfo.

    • Jako301 ( Jako301@feddit.de ) 
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      I wouldn’t want to deal with additional background characters either even if they played the role for free.

      It’s just more contracts to be signed, more people on set, more potential things that don’t go as planned. Its a lot of extra work and organisation needed for something that pretty much no normal viewer would notice if done at least semi professionally.

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    I’ve watched that clip probably a dozen times and laughed every time. They have an entire row of fake mannequin people in the middle of the shot surrounded by lots of real actors and extras. Utterly bizarre.

    This is why I don’t use the word “content” to describe this stuff. That’s the word execs use, and it’s because they see this kind of thing as fine. It’s just mass-produced product to them.

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      I had a look as well, and that’s gotta be 1995 dancing baby tier CGI. The effects department must be dusting off the old SGI indys because the budget clearly went to Bob’s next yacht

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        Holy shit they’re barely even trying

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          I thought they might have been doing it in protest because some of the mannequins are clapping off the beat, but then I realized it matches one of the real actors in the front, and now I’m just thanking myself that I haven’t watched a Disney movie since I took a gamble on their first SW flick.

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    Are we sure that isn’t a crash test dummy?

    • Veticia ( Veticia@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Slightly used

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    • Diplomjodler ( Diplomjodler@feddit.de ) 
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      Anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

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        • Sendbeer ( Sendbeer@lemm.ee ) 
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          It’s in a movie… this is a TV and movie community.?

          Might not be interesting to you, but it’s relevant to the topic. The real question is why don’t you just move on?

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    I can hear the executive after they got the crowd shot and somebody noted the stands looked pretty empty: “Just have the AI fill it in”

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    This is not new and has nothing to do with AI. AI is like 5G, but for mass audience.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    While the WGA has since come to an agreement with studios, SAG-AFTRA’s strike is still ongoing — and the use of artificial intelligence in the industry has remained a huge point of contention, with actors calling for protections against studios using AI-generated versions of their voices or likenesses — and for good reason.

    The clip, which first made its rounds on social media back in April, shows an audience seated on bleachers watching a high school basketball game.

    The clip reignited a heated debate surrounding the use of computer-generated imagery in film, and how the tech could eventually replace human actors, a major talking point during SAG-AFTRA’s ongoing negotiations.

    In a press conference immediately following the union’s call for a strike in July, executive director and chief negotiator Duncan Crabtree-Ireland revealed that the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers proposed to have background performers scanned, “get paid for one day’s pay, and their company should own that scan their image, their likeness and should be able to use it for the rest of eternity.”

    “Disney is insane and just more reason why the AMPTP needs to ditch this plan to replace background actors with AI,” freelance writer Christopher Marc, who recently shared the “Prom Pact” clip, tweeted.

    This week, SAG-AFTRA proposed a bill to lawmakers called the NO FAKES Act, “creating new and urgently needed protections for voice and likeness in the age of generative artificial intelligence.”


    The original article contains 431 words, the summary contains 237 words. Saved 45%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    For the folks saying this is nothing new and nbd - Id watch the animated version first lol

    I don’t have any issue with CGI extras in general (plenty of movies have done it well), but this shit is just bad lol

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  • Metal Zealot ( Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I remember this set in 3D Movie Maker

    “Those bullies won’t bother me now”

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