I was with Reddit for 12 years and bounced between Rif and Apollo, I am sad I am losing both

    • Lells ( Lells@kbin.social ) 
      57·
      3 years ago

      Hehe, the actual “old internet” resembles the fediverse of today, it’s what we thought the internet was supposed to be back then. Once corporations found the internet, we got the bullshit we have today.

        • FreeBooteR69 ( FreeBooteR69@kbin.social ) 
          6·
          3 years ago

          More instances will need to spin up. People aren’t used to having choice so it’ll confuse them at first. Same thing with Linux distributions, people aren’t used to having choice so they don’t know how to go about comparing what’s on offer. They’ll accept making choices at the food market, but are too confused when it comes to OS’s and social media, lol.

          • Maximilious ( Maximilious@kbin.social ) 
            2·
            3 years ago

            I’ve been pondering this very reason. It’s compelling for me to make my own instance so I have my own little slice of fediverse to call my own, and have access to the greater picture of it too.

          • Sordid ( Sordid@kbin.social ) 
            1·
            3 years ago

            Well if instances keep defederating each other, it does matter. Plus there’s the question of stability. Sure, you could make your account on some tiny niche instance, but what if the guy running it decides he’s had enough and terminates it? What happens to your account, your post history?

            • sudo ( sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 
              1·
              3 years ago

              If you care about your account and your post history, you’re free to run you own instance. People are also working on mechanisms to sync community subscriptions between accounts, which would at least help the UX navigating multiple accounts. Lemmy also has an API that I’m sure users will be looking to create services to backup your content as well, if something like that doesn’t already exist.

              As for defederation, I’m only aware of these major reasons and all of them are legitimate:

              • Nazis
              • NSFL/CP
              • Sourcing illegal content (illegal from the defederating hosts side, and this really lends to the above two as well)
              • Growing pains as Lemmy explodes with new users

              The only thing a giant corporation could do is muddy the waters, but people who care about the future of Lemmy are working to prevent that https://wedistribute.org/2023/06/fedipact-blocking-meta/

          • LedgeDrop ( LedgeDrop@beehaw.org ) 
            3·
            3 years ago

            Eh, don’t be so sure.

            Email is often drawn as something similar to the fediverse. … but if you’ve ever tried to run a small Mailserver, you’ll quickly find that “the big corps” have created a walled garden that’ll keep the “small fish” out.

            It’s all based on what the big players view as your “reputation”. This is based on proprietary metrics (usually how many emails you send), but your reputation will determine if the email is delivered or not.

            You can find more information here.

            … but the point is that one big corps consolidate and reach the size (in terms of traffic/content) like Hotmail, Gmail, yahoo, etc - they will not hesitate to squeeze out the smaller fediverse fish to force them into paying to use the bigger pond.

            Sadly … this is just business as usual.

          • Sordid ( Sordid@kbin.social ) 
            2·
            3 years ago

            Sure, but it’ll be the same story all over again. The big platform will be ruined and the alternative option will be smaller and therefore not as good (since user base directly contributes to quality when it comes to community-based platforms; it’s the users who post all the content, so fewer users = less content).

            • spencerforhire81 ( spencerforhire81@beehaw.org ) 
              1·
              3 years ago

              And then one of the smaller platforms will draw more users because passion is attractive, and the cycle will begin anew.

              You can view it as depressing or exciting, I’m choosing exciting. All social media sites are eventually destroyed by their own success, but creation follows destruction. Nothing that’s truly beautiful lasts forever.

        • speck ( speck@kbin.social ) 
          9·
          3 years ago

          Reddit became part of the shitty second season / crappy sequel era of the internet.

          Also, can we not call the fediverse “Lemmy”? It’s.a disservice to what we all are vying for here and sets us up to land right back into the same bullshit.

    • tal ( tal@kbin.social ) 
      5·
      3 years ago

      Reddit is the old internet.

      Ehhh.

      I’d timeline it something like this:

      Interaction was on non-Web-based systems, mostly distributed

      This was mostly pre-2000s and tended to go into decline in the 1990s or 2000s as Web-based platforms focusing on ease of use picked up users. Many of these were distributed.

      • Usenet (decline as a discussion forum dating to maybe late 1990s, though lots of pirated information is still transferred via it)

      • IRC, peaking around 2003 according to WP

      • Email (peaked later, in 2009, according to WP. Obviously still pretty healthy compared to the above two.

      Web 2.0

      People tend to shift towards interacting with each other on large websites; these tend to later acquire mobile apps to cater to smartphone users.

      • Facebook

      • YouTube

      • Twitter

      • Reddit (though a fair number of third-party clients did exist)

      If the Fediverse manages to pick up a lot of people, it’s probably somewhat-closer to the first phase.

  • jcrm ( jcrm@kbin.social ) 
    7·
    3 years ago

    I’m genuinely sad. Not to be dramatic, but there were times where Reddit saved my life. Seeing the number of comments and posts I had made while I was scrubbing my account hit me harder than I thought it would.

  • Orionza ( Orionza@kbin.social ) 
    7·
    3 years ago

    For me, it was JoeyforReddit on Android. What an excellent app! I was able to read at length because I could select my own font, sizes and color. It made for very easy reading on my eyes.

    I love being here but am hoping for apps for these new socials. I cannot do the sans serif fonts without eye pain. I think the reading flow isn’t smooth. So improvements needed and will be well received.

    Nice to see you all here.

  • swan_pr ( swan_pr@kbin.social ) 
    4·
    3 years ago

    I was thinking about exactly this last night. I feel like the apps we used (12 years on Reddit, with RIF for as long as I remember) were Reddit. The apps and the way we customized them created our own little Reddit universe. I’m sad for all the devs that worked on their applications and put so much work into them also. But I’ve been off Reddit for a couple of weeks and I absolutely do not miss it.

  • MrZigZag ( MrZigZag@kbin.social ) 
    2·
    3 years ago

    I was always an old.reddit.com user on both desktop and Android so I didn’t think the loss of the apps would make too much difference to me.

    Yeesh was I wrong; you can already see the falloff in content over there now.

    And I am really sick of seeing John Oliver pics.

  • Usernameblankface ( Usernameblankface@kbin.social ) 
    1·
    3 years ago

    I was about to make a post like this. Trying to explain this whole situation to someone this morning, and found myself feeling way more feelings than I expected to feel over losing an app.

    But it’s more than an app. For the last 7 years, it’s where my nerds hang out. It’s where I could get actual humans responding to weird questions.

    It’s also the place where I often got shouted down and told in many ways that I’m stupid.

    I expected these two things to balance each other out, but no. I’m sad to lose Reddit, upset that the reason is greed, and a little apprehensive about relying on Kbin for all my forum contend from now on. It’s been great here so far, but I’m only just getting started.