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The Picard Maneuver ( The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website )  to Lord of the memes@midwest.socialEnglish · 3 years ago

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The Picard Maneuver ( The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website )  to Lord of the memes@midwest.socialEnglish · 3 years ago
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  • edric ( scytale@lemm.ee ) 
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    Frank Herbert: Giant sandworms lol. /j

    • ALoafOfBread ( ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Frank Herbert: … and dogs that are also chairs… rips bong… chairdogs

    • Daqu ( Daqu@feddit.de ) 
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      Duncan, Duncan, Duncan, Duncan

    • deadh34d ( deadh34d@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Fuckin Herbert just decided to write philosophy disguised as a sci-fi story lol

    • novibe ( novibe@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Frank Herbert is what happens when a genius writer takes too much shrooms while studying dunes. Like that is literally what happened.

      • interolivary ( interolivary@beehaw.org ) 
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        Calling him a genius writer is probably being a bit too generous, what with all the beefswellings and all that

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          Cmon, you just gotta do more shrooms and re-read Dune bro.

  • magnetosphere ( magnetosphere@kbin.social ) 
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    Tolkien is clearly the best, but I don’t have a problem with Martin borrowing from real-life history. History is incredibly cool, and full of amazing stories. Stealing from other authors is bullshit, though.

  • Jo Miran ( JoMiran@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Then you have the author of Twilight that started world building after the first book, created a number of characters with interesting background lore, then proceeded to do nothing with any of it.

    • TrenchcoatFullOfBats ( TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip ) 
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      It’s even worse than that - Twilight was originally fanfic for Anne Rice’s Vampire Chronicles series, so it’s all just Lestat with a fake mustache and sparkles.

    • frozen ( frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ) 
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      I read that series out of spite when it was popular, and actually started getting interested in the lore and world when she started introducing fucking X-Men powers. Huge build up, huge hype, and then… fucking nothing. I shouldn’t have been surprised, but alas.

      • Jo Miran ( JoMiran@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Same.

  • Knightfox ( Knightfox@lemmy.one ) 
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    To be fair the children’s story came first. In that regard Tolkien and Rowling had something in common, their first books were written for a much younger and simpler audience. It wasn’t until they took off commercially that the more adult and deep lore was developed.

    EDIT: I’m wrong

  • spudwart ( spudwart@spudwart.com ) 
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    George Lucas: Let someone else handle it.

    • Pistcow ( Pistcow@lemm.ee ) 
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      as long as the broads are wearin’ short skirts

      • leftzero ( leftzero@lemmy.ml ) 
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        “There’s no underwear in space.”

  • shaman1093 ( shaman1093@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Steven Erikson: here’s a world that contains millennia of anthropologically grounded cultures that got spiced up by some interdimensional elves, orcs, gods & dragons that me and my buddy use to play D&D in, have fun reading through the eyes of over 1000 characters lol

    • Troy ( troyunrau@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Currently in book 9. Moving ever so slowly so it doesn’t end too quickly, cause then what will I read? 😭

  • shiveyarbles ( shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 
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    Yeah the Hobbit was the first book I ever read, at six years old, lucky me I became a lifetime nerd

  • Queen HawlSera ( HawlSera@lemm.ee ) 
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    And people wonder why I have no respect for George R R Martin. Why I have no respect for JK rowling, destroyer of her Legacy is self-evident at this point

    • FiskFisk33 ( FiskFisk33@startrek.website ) 
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      I respect Martins approach. Not every fantasy writer has to be a Tolkien.

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        Tolkien: Writes a complex, multifaceted story set in a rich universe in a single elegant novel across three volumes.

        Martin: Is five books into his trilogy with at least two more to go and still has no idea where the story is going.

        I think I know which approach I respect more…

        • FiskFisk33 ( FiskFisk33@startrek.website ) 
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          What I mean is, Einsteins existence doesn’t have to make me lose respect for other physicists. You don’t have to be one of the absolute legendary best to achieve something valuable.

      • Treczoks ( Treczoks@lemm.ee ) 
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        Not every writer has the fantasy that Tokien had.

  • ColeSloth ( ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    My bottom panel is getting swapped out for the husband and wife duo of K.A Applegate and the Animorphs books.

    • The Picard Maneuver ( The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website ) OP
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      She was one of the first AMAs I remember being there for on reddit. It was before people had PR handlers doing the AMAs for them (maybe 2011?), and it was so cool to hear her talk about the books.

  • kingthrillgore ( KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Writing world building is fun!

    Writing actual fiction is boring and dull because if it’s not a monomyth your editor is gonna removed about it

  • Cyborganism ( cyborganism@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Didn’t he write the Hobbit first and then everything else around it?

    • JoKi ( JoKi@feddit.de ) 
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      He already hada lot of stories and ideas about Middle Earth before. When he wrote the Hobbit for his kids, he placed it in this world and it became the first book to be published. Lord of the Rings he wrote as a sequel to the Hobbit, but added a lot of hints and references to his other stories of his world.

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      He set The Hobbit (which he wrote for his kids) in the world he’d already built… not because he particularly enjoyed worldbuilding, but because a culturally complex fantasy world with a rich history and mythology was a prerequisite for the epic poetic sagas he felt needed to write in order to properly develop his fantasy languages, which is what he really liked to do, as a philologist.

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