• Yes, higher education is now less accessible to non-whites. Which is good, because affirmative action was never a fair solution to the issue and was simply unfair in principle imo. We shouldn’t raise the eligibility of people based on their race, college admissions and race should have nothing to do with one another. Class-based affirmative action actually makes sense instead of deciding off race.

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      It’s Republican moral bankruptcy and cruelty that we will all suffer. If anyone’s stupidity got us here, it’s the Democratic Party’s stupid leadership since AT LEAST 2000, if not earlier. Republicans have telegraphed their intentions for 50 fuckin years and Democrats continued over and over to attempt reaching across the aisle, trying to pass bipartisan wins, “take the high road,” … all the while the Republican party continued putting their racist, xenophobic, mysoginistic, jingoistic, classist platform out year after year, abandoning all sense of decorum and norms, gerrymandering the fuck out of every district possible, blocking every bill that helps anyone aside from billionaires and corporations, and generally lying and cheating their way to what we have today.

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          Justices need to die or retire in order for there to be a vacancy for a President to appoint a new Justice to. There was a vacancy at the start of Trump’s term due to a death during Obama’s that the Republicans refused to confirm an appointment for, and then there was a retirement (Kennedy) and death (RBG) during his term as well.

          • For anyone who isn’t familiar, RBG was a liberal Supreme Court justice that was getting very old, and a lot of people thought she should have retired during Obama’s term, where she could have been replaced by him. Some accuse her of stubbornness/hubris for not stepping down when it was “safe”, and point out that her whole legacy is now being undone.

            Others point out that common wisdom at the time was that Hillary was going to he a shoe in as the next president, and nobody expected a Republican to win, including RBG.

            Anyway, I’m not taking a stance but just fleshing that out for anyone who is interested in the controversy.

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              Others point out that common wisdom at the time was that Hillary was going to he a shoe in as the next president

              Just to also point out. This “common wisdom” is part of why Hillary lost and why a lot of people argued that RBG should have resigned during her term because the next Democratic President wasn’t a shoe-in, and people couldn’t just rely on that.

              People also seem to forget that both a Bush and a Clinton were running in 2016 and in a way, Trump being elected was a initially a rejection of “political dynasties” as Presidencies (which then immediately turned to his followers wanting him as a forever king, but that’s a different issue entirely). I had a Bush or a Clinton as President for twenty years of my life (roughly a third of the average lifespan for a US citizen). From my youth until I was no longer considered a youth, well into adulthood. I remember being frustrated at being faced with both a Bush and a Clinton in the primaries. I know lots of other people, on both sides of the aisle, did too. Nobody wanted more of the same (I know Hillary didn’t view herself as “more of the same” of her husband, and for good reason, but that wasn’t common opinion).

              The entire thing about it being “common wisdom” was spoken from a position of privilege by elite Democrats and ignoring that common people weren’t every excited about either Bush or Clinton but Clinton got shoehorned in anyway while Bush had his “please clap” moment. It’s not a shoe-in if you have to use a shoehorn, mind you.

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      Maybe Hilldawg could have campaigned in Wisconsin or taken seriously that even if she won the popular vote, that the Electoral College actually mattered.

      Reminder, she did win the popular vote. The majority did vote for her.

      Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business.

      • This has been the Democrat strategy for a long time now: make wonderful promises they don’t intend to keep, then blame everyone else when they don’t come to fruition. People keep voting for them despite this obvious fact, because Republicans make terrible promises that they actually try to keep.

        We’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t. The only winning move is to not play flip the table and play a different game.

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          I just posted this thought before scrolling to see yours. Absolutely their strategy. They don’t actually give a fuck about us or the promises we expect them to keep.

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        The dem politician’s tactic. Pretend like you give a fuck (pretending bc they dont actually do the things to solve the issue), and then hold your constituency hostage during elections. Then continue to pretend like you give a fuck.

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          This happens every election cycle. We do our job by electing them. They are privy to what will happen and fail to act when they have the power to do so. Who else do we blame? The universe?

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              It has everything to do with Obama’s promise. By not following through on his promise to legislate it into law, the opportunity reverse the previous court decision was always a thing that could happen. Acting like them not taking the opportunity when they had it means its the fault of the voting public is pure bullshit.

              Instead, Obama used his political capital to pass Romneycare, which while it helped a lot of poor people, has made the insurance market even worse for many, who still have insurance that they can’t afford to actually use.

  • My “favorite” part of the majority ruling is how the loan forgiveness was struck down because it would harm the loan servicers. Not the government, not the people, the companies that have been contracted to collect the loans. That’s who SCOTUS is most concerned with. Should tell us everything we need to know about who’s interests are most important - capitalists

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      Not only did they admit that MOHELA didn’t have standing, MOHELA itself said this wouldn’t impact them and they didn’t ask to be part of the case.

      Funny how it turns out that standing doesn’t matter when they don’t want it to.

      Kinda similar to the other case they dropped this morning, allowing LGBT discrimination… despite the fact that it turns out that no gay person ever actually asked this bakery to make them a cake for their wedding. When contacted, the man who purportedly sent the email claimed he never sent it and has been married to a woman for years. They don’t even give a shit if it’s made up they will sign off on it.

  • Who here still thinks republicans should be allowed to vote and hold elected office and write and pass laws?

    Show of hands?

    Great, everyone who raised their hand deserves this shit. Everyone wants to hate on Republicans, but when it comes to the voting booth, everyone defends them to the death. Well this is what you get. But DeMoCrAcY is more important than anything and everything, right?

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      Come on, you play right into their bullshit propaganda with that message. If they go low we don’t stoop to their level. We do not win elections by removing voting rights for those we disagree with - that is an authoritarian tactic.

      • there isn’t really any ‘nobility’ in ‘taking the high road’ while marginalized communities continue to get owned and killed. Trans kids are being targeted, women are being targeted, BIPOC are being targeted.

        what good is civility? authoritarian leftism is the only way to get results

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      I personally think it doesn’t suddenly stop being “democracy” because you decided to make laws about disallowing people who are trying to dismantle democracy and replace it with authoritarianism to participate in democracy, because they’re obviously participating in bad faith.

      I don’t think you should lose voting rights for felonies. I think you should lose voting rights for trying to dismantle the state and remove hard-fought for citizens rights. But maybe I’m a crazy person for thinking that a lot of these people are pretty dumb motherfuckers, and for the pretty dumb motherfuckers, its pretty easy to prove that they’re acting in bad faith and to deny them voting rights until they get their ass educated accordingly.

      I’m with you, at this point it doesn’t make sense to let literal fucking terrorists be involved in democracy, because it’s already no longer democracy when they’re threatening you at the voting booth with their guns so you “vote right.”

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    Roe, Affirmative Action, LGBTQ protections, this is why you should vote in every election, including (perhaps especially) midterm elections. It’s the composition of Congress that makes these things happen, and you can’t pass on voting if you want to prevent it.

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    I know this upsets a lot of people, but the ruling isn’t without justification. $450B++ in government spending should not be accomplished through a legal loophole. (Quite aside from the fact that fiscal stimulus is the last thing the economy needs right now.)

    • It is absolutely without justification. The language of the HEROES Act allows the Secretary of Education to “waive or modify any statutory or regulatory provision applicable to the student financial aid programs under title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965.” This is not a loophole, it is the law, passed by Congress. And regardless of any foreseen impact on the economy, SCOTUS should not legislate. Otherwise, they’re just an activist court.