Israel has continued bombarding Gaza’s south despite telling 1.1 million people in the north of the besieged enclave to relocate there ahead of an expected ground offensive.
“We were displaced from Tal al-Hawa to Rafah at the request of the Israeli army, and this is what happened to us. My son is a 3-month-old martyr,” the father of a child killed in an attack in Rafah told Al Jazeera.
Yeah killing innocent children isn’t the solution to anything. Shameful shit that the Whitehouse supports this horror
The EU just confirmed that they are fine with this as well. Apparently they see no problem as long as Israel says they are trying to hit terrorists. Un-f*cking-believable!
If you live in USA or EU your government is ok with this
Since I live in the USA, actually we fund it to the tune of several billion a year and then some.
You think we like our governments?
Absolutely disgusting in every way. War is the product of infantile minds and sick abusive hearts. These kids did not deserve to die for the stupidity and perverse beliefs of the adults surrounding them. Shame on Israel for this murderous atrocity and shame on Hamas for engaging in warlike acts of child murder as well. NO ONE is above blame for this horrendous show of inhumane and despicable sickness.
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oh my fucking god
Does the UN or some other more neutral org have numbers? I mean, the Gaza Ministry of Health kinda has incentive to exaggerate civilian casualties, just like the IDF has incentive to say “everyone in that playground we hit with that airstrike was an Islamic Jihad Terrorist”.
it is such a weird angle to take, since the Gaza concentration camp is shut off from the rest of the world, without power. Journalists are not allowed in, neither are any and all humanitarian organizations.
Until the apartheid state open up the Gaza concentration camp, we will just have to take their word for it.
When Israel makes any claims, the outside world can in one way or another visit, inspect and verify.
If Israel wants more certainty on statistics of innocent dead people, they should end their siege.
The WHO released some concerning numbers.
I know Lemmists here don’t trust anything from WHO but that’s all I got.
You’re absolutely right that there will be variance, and that each side has incentive to inflate death counts, etc. Other orgs will likely not produce their own numbers until after this mess is over. Check the Wiki pages or B’Tselem pages on previous assaults on Gaza to see how the numbers can vary, that’ll give you an idea at least.
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Do you think this is outside of the expected number of deaths at this point?
Israel usually kills 10-20 Palestinians for every Israeli killed, so we can expect about 15-30k total Palestinian deaths from this, most of whom will be civilians.
I expect the number of deaths per day is going to ramp up once the hospitals and food centers run out of resources.
The average age in Gaza is like 18. Of course about half of the deaths are going to be children
Something like 54% of the Gaza population is under 24.
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In Gaza?
I’m fairly confident that the Palestinian Authority has no real control of anything in Gaza. Fatah and Hamas literally had a minor civil war over the issue in 2006 and 2007.
Which organization has the resources to send someone to check, that doesn’t have an agenda?
I recognize that you’re not explicitly defending Israel; you’re merely criticizing one institution that operates under Hamas rule.
I mean you’re right of course, buy even if they’d doubled the number… would 2500 deaths be ok?
Nope. None of this is acceptable. At the same time, I don’t like people just passing on figures from Hamas that are questionable at best. Facts matter.
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It is all and well within the limit of a “proportionate” response exercising the “right of selfdefence”! Wondering who decides where the limit goes.
I’d be careful with using these numbers as they are difficult to verify and often come from Hamas themselves. That is not to dismiss lives lost but raise awareness about committing to accurate information.
Humans once again going batshit crazy with mass murder riding on a wave of vengeance. It’s a disease with no cure.
