- simple ( @simple@lemmy.mywire.xyz ) English114•1 year ago
Just gonna leave this little gem here, enjoy.
- Cavemanfreak ( @Cavemanfreak@vlemmy.net ) English18•1 year ago
Haha jesus christ, the incompetence is unreal!
- MsPenguinette ( @MsPenguinette@beehaw.org ) English10•1 year ago
Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!
- communication [they] ( @communication@beehaw.org ) English6•1 year ago
This is…beautiful?
- ajjlyman ( @ajjlyman@vlemmy.net ) English4•1 year ago
I literally fell out my chair laughing at the network tab scrolling like that 🤣
- omenmis ( @omenmis@beehaw.org ) English2•1 year ago
did they not even test it before they shipped it. Embarassing
- key ( @key@lemmy.keychat.org ) English81•1 year ago
By post he means tweet, right? Google says average tweet length is only around 30 characters and average word length around 5 characters. So let’s say it’s 8 words with abbreviation which would take 2 seconds to read. If it’s 4 seconds per tweet with scrolling then you can now only spend under an hour on Twitter without paying (not counting time spent replying). Good on him for fighting against social media addiction I guess.
- Thurgo ( @Thurgo@lemm.ee ) English42•1 year ago
I got rate limited in 25 minutes by refreshing my Following feed and reading about people getting rate limited. I don’t think it counts 600 unique tweets since I definitely reloaded the same tweets multiple times.
- myxi ( @myxi@feddit.nl ) English29•1 year ago
Dude is using 100% of his brain to find the best way to cut ad revenue.
- grinde ( @grinde@programming.dev ) English15•1 year ago
It’s basically everything. Tweets, quoted tweets, replies, and even ads all count against the limit. I’ve seen people saying they hit the limit in under 10 minutes of scrolling. One person said they only managed to post two tweets before being limited.
And from what I understand spam bots are mostly unaffected since they’re already rate limited for reads (but not posts).
- Casmael ( @Casmael@geddit.social ) English11•1 year ago
Lmao what a fucking spoon
- cduke23 ( @cduke23@beehaw.org ) English4•1 year ago
I can’t believe people used to think this guy was Tony Stark, when he was obviously a dumber Justin Hammer this whole time.
- jay ( @lunarshot@beehaw.org ) English76•1 year ago
wow, this is actually amazing.
You’d think a rapidly developing service like Lemmy might face restrictions like that due to resources but Twitter? Mismanagement beyond belief.
- rs5th ( @rs5th@beehaw.org ) English75•1 year ago
spez right now:
- Solar Bear ( @bear@slrpnk.net ) English73•1 year ago
How the fuck is Reddit closing their API behind a ridiculous paywall only the SECOND stupidest social media move of the day
- Casmael ( @Casmael@geddit.social ) English35•1 year ago
Boy I sure picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue
- Cavemanfreak ( @Cavemanfreak@vlemmy.net ) English11•1 year ago
Well I picked the wrong day to quit amphetamines!
- Sooperstition ( @Sooperstition@lemmy.one ) English2•1 year ago
The reporters came to the scene to take some pictures…
- LittleKerr ( @LittleKerr@beehaw.org ) English20•1 year ago
The day is not over yet
- ReallyActuallyFrankenstein ( @ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ) English5•1 year ago
Well, Huffman made his Reddit API moves in conscious emulation of (and after talking with) Musk. So behold, a single bad idea from a single person is bringing down two major social networks in one day.
- dan ( @dan@upvote.au ) English1•1 year ago
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- marx2k ( @marx2k@beehaw.org ) English66•1 year ago
Fucking lol.
Keep punching yourself in the dick, elmo.
- interolivary ( @interolivary@beehaw.org ) English50•1 year ago
I wonder what’s actually going on; I doubt it’s about “scraping” and “manipulation”
- grinde ( @grinde@programming.dev ) English37•1 year ago
This is second-hand, so take it with a grain of salt, but I’ve seen mention of a bug that sometimes causes the same graphql query to be executed in an infinite loop (presumably they’re async requests, so the browser wouldn’t lock and the user wouldn’t even notice).
So they may essentially be getting DDOS’d by their own users due to a bug on their end.
Edit: better info: https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639435788921057
- interolivary ( @interolivary@beehaw.org ) English10•1 year ago
Ha, that’s hilarious. Absolutely not a surprise, though
- Catoblepas ( @Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English16•1 year ago
For my money I would bet the issue stems from abandoning Google server hosting, either from arrogance or being unable to afford it.
- interolivary ( @interolivary@beehaw.org ) English5•1 year ago
Oh yeah I completely forgot about that particular idiocy, Elmo gets up to so much stupid shit that it’s hard to keep track.
But I’d also be willing to bet money on this being somehow at least partially tied to ditching GC, likely due to not being able to pay (at that’s what is implied by them refusing to pay the bill.) I guess Elmo thought “how hard can running some servers be? I’m a rokit skientist” and decided to just skip paying the bill as a power move instead of trying to make a deal with Google, and now the remaining developers, ops people etc. – those poor bastards – are paying the price.
- fidodo ( @fidodo@beehaw.org ) English5•1 year ago
That’s my bet too. They weren’t hosting the site itself on GCP but they were using them for trust and safety services, and I bet that one of those services was anti scraping prevention with things like ip blocking and captchas, which would explain why scraping suddenly became a problem for them the day their contract ended. It can’t be a coincidence.
- AChiTenshi ( @AChiTenshi@vlemmy.net ) English15•1 year ago
I’m suspect some of the backend is starting to fail. So the servers can’t keep up with the demand.
- Scrubbles ( @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ) English13•1 year ago
Or it could be. It’s no coincidence that scraping went way up when he started charging for the API.
Everyone with a brain knows that data will be retrieved somehow, it’s do you want a lower cost API option or do you want them to scrape the whole webpage?
- the_artic_one ( @the_artic_one@programming.dev ) English6•1 year ago
I bet it’s just more short sighted penny pinching, he’s been skipping out on bills left and right.
- jmcs ( @jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de ) English6•1 year ago
If it is, he’s even dumber than I thought. You stop scrapping by setting a rate limit to something comfortable for humans but painfully slow for scrappers. Something like 60 tweets per minute would all but ensure that humans aren’t affected and that scrappers won’t get anywhere.
- xuu ( @xuu@social.sour.is ) English3•1 year ago
Its all about getting people to pay for it.
- chickenwing ( @chickenwing@lemmy.film ) English46•1 year ago
You know the fediverse isn’t perfect but it seems more sustainable than these big social media companies that are not profitable. Reddit and Twitter make no real money but want to host everything on their website and I’m not entirely sure why. Image boards like 4chan purge all their data and the fediverse is spread out to a bunch of different servers. What’s the point of keeping everything forever on one server? Do they really think that all that junk data is valuable?
Also why did reddit go from just hosting text to hosting images and videos? It used to be a link aggregation site now it’s a never leave our borders site I don’t understand how that’s going to be profitable with how much hosting that data is going to cost.
Years ago I used to hit like 15 websites a day just for video game news and discussion then it became all reddit.
- cmdrfire ( @cmdrfire@lemmy.villa-straylight.social ) English24•1 year ago
As Cory Doctorow termed it, it’s the enshittification of the Internet - all for the sake of “shareholder value” It’s a proper “can’t see the wood for the trees” business
- seducingcamel ( @seducingcamel@beehaw.org ) English7•1 year ago
Miss the good ole days of porn on gfycat
- seducingcamel ( @seducingcamel@beehaw.org ) English4•1 year ago
Miss the good ole days of imgur, YouTube, and porn on gfycat
- dan ( @dan@upvote.au ) English3•1 year ago
Also why did reddit go from just hosting text to hosting images and videos? It used to be a link aggregation site now it’s a never leave our borders site
The idea is to keep the users on Reddit instead of directing them to third-party sites, so they can show them ads instead of the third-party sites getting all the ad revenue. They just haven’t figured out how to monetize it.
- chickenwing ( @chickenwing@lemmy.film ) English2•1 year ago
It’s costing them a lot of money to do that. Old reddit must have been a lot cheaper. I don’t get the walled garden approach for a link aggregation site. It’s obvious spez is going to sell it for a shit ton of money then bounce because it’s a money pit. So was Twitter they lucked out with Elon being dumb enough to buy it for that insane price tag.
- ConsciousCode ( @ConsciousCode@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
Set up the garden’s walls so you can profit off the users when “eventually” figure out how to monetize them? Sending people to third party sites means you can’t show them ads even in principle, but the cost of hosting seems like it would quickly outstrip whatever extra revenue you could get. Corporations are legally required to increase in value forever, so it’s literally illegal to make “enough money” when there’s a chance for “all the money”, even if pursuing that chance actually hurts long-term viability (which stockholders don’t care about because they can always cash out).
- RandomBit ( @randombit@lemmy.sdf.org ) English38•1 year ago
I’m shocked, SHOCKED that killing the API would lead to web scraping! That was a completely unpredictable outcome.
- fidodo ( @fidodo@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
I’m also shocked that this happened the day after their contract with Google for trust and safety services ended. Totally a coincidence right? One of those services surely couldn’t be anti scraper protection could it?
- Meow.tar.gz ( @ablackcatstail@goblackcat.xyz ) English37•1 year ago
I for one am cheering its demise.
- sabreW4K3 ( @sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf ) English32•1 year ago
Limit rating your core audience in their primary task is completely batshit crazy. Thank fuck for mastodon.
- Lazycog ( @Lazycog@lemmy.one ) English32•1 year ago
Let’s hope for another twitter migration wave to mastodon / other fediverse platforms!
- arctic pie (he/him) ( @arcticpiecitylights@beehaw.org ) English31•1 year ago
So unless you pay Elon Musk $8/month, you can only load 600 tweets per day. That’s some fucked up shit right there man.
- madjo ( @madjo@geddit.social ) English4•1 year ago
And apparently their new algorithm seems to favour posts that anger people. So it’s 600 rage inducing posts… stick a fork in it, Twitter is done.
- Data's Cat Spot ( @Datas_Cat_Spot@startrek.website ) English1•1 year ago
…surely there’s gotta be a better analogy
- tristanphips ( @tristanphips@lemmy.ml ) English31•1 year ago
Traditional internet is killing itself
- chickenwing ( @chickenwing@lemmy.film ) English45•1 year ago
Just these monolithic social media companies really. And I don’t really consider anything “web 2.0” to be traditional internet. Newgrounds was traditional internet.
- Kalothar ( @Kalothar@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English7•1 year ago
And it was dope for little Kalothar
- Data's Cat Spot ( @Datas_Cat_Spot@startrek.website ) English27•1 year ago
The fediverse came just in time. I wouldn’t have even heard about lemmy/kbin or mastodon if reddit hadn’t shut down 3rd party apps.
They seem like they’re trying to bleed a stone.
- Dee ( @Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org ) English2•1 year ago
They showed they don’t have the lobes for business.
- bobs_monkey ( @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ) English24•1 year ago
Nah, Web 2.0 is killing itself. Turns out dipshit greedy pig boys aren’t great at running social platforms
- ConsciousCode ( @ConsciousCode@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
It’s bizarre they ever thought they could, the internet is pretty fundamentally socialist in spirit with large chunks of infrastructure being maintained by OSS, the culture being based in flirting with copyright violation and transformative works, and people generally expecting to receive services for free. Information on the internet is intuitively considered the commons by everyone except the people trying to monetize it.
- rm_dash_r_star ( @rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee ) English11•1 year ago
I would say the traditional internet was before the time of corporate ruled media, so in that case I’d say corporate internet is killing itself and and media is going back to traditional, at least with respect to the Fediverse.
- Grant_M ( @Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) English30•1 year ago
This is the result of a deranged fascist being born with an apartheid silver spoon in his mouth.
- MikeHfuhruhurr ( @MikeHfuhruhurr@beehaw.org ) English23•1 year ago
Probably an emerald spoon in his case.
- Grant_M ( @Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) English6•1 year ago
Indeed!
- ram ( @ram@lemmy.ca ) English13•1 year ago
But there’s no proof his father even owned emerald mines!! I mean outside public records and his father’s admission and assertion that it’s true!!
Name me one piece of evidence outside that!! You can’t
- Grant_M ( @Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) English4•1 year ago
😂