Veraxus ( @Veraxus@kbin.social ) 94•8 months agoHow about: No arms deals with any entity that indiscriminately murders innocent people, women, and children?
ironhydroxide ( @ironhydroxide@partizle.com ) 13•8 months agoShit no deals with Boeing, Northrup Grumman, etc.
Oh well, I’m certain they won’t bribe Congress to force their deals through… /s
Poggervania ( @Poggervania@kbin.social ) 11•8 months agoSo practically every major power in the world?
Veraxus ( @Veraxus@kbin.social ) 19•8 months agoyes
thilo ( @thilo@lemmy.ml ) 9•8 months agoWhat? Think about the BlackRock’s and Vanguard’s!
watson387 ( @watson387@sopuli.xyz ) 49•8 months agoFuck Israel. We shouldn’t be supporting them at all.
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) 11•8 months ago
They would fold under even the littlest bit of BDS, but that’s not going to happen because the US sees themselves in Israel.
Bartsbigbugbag ( @Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml ) 7•8 months agoThus why nearly every state has made it illegal for any company that works with the government to be BDS-positive.
demesisx ( @demesisx@infosec.pub ) English34•8 months agoI can’t believe how many shitlibs there are in here, using this opportunity to guilt people with an actual conscience into voting for this piece of shit as if he has some sort of moral high ground.
What is the lesser evil when both the DNC and the GOP work directly for the exact same military industrial complex?
The real villain here is the system that makes any party outside of the two party system completely irrelevant: first-past-the-post.
We have two Republican parties. One of them just so happens to pretend better at being inclusive…but they secretly also wish that the poor could be burned to fuel their mega-yachts.
thilo ( @thilo@lemmy.ml ) 12•8 months agoThis is nonsense. MAGA is a fascist movement. Don’t let both being neo-liberal blind you.
demesisx ( @demesisx@infosec.pub ) English6•8 months agoFascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.
To me, it sounds a whole lot like both Biden AND Trump can be considered fascists….especially with this idea of secret military aid to Israel that I’m reacting to here.
OurToothbrush ( @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml ) 5•8 months agoLooking at it from an economic definition perspective though Biden represents the financial bourgeoisie and Trump represents more industrial bourgeoisie
demesisx ( @demesisx@infosec.pub ) English6•8 months agoI’d actually argue that Trump comes from the real estate bourgeoisie but I agree on the Biden characterization. Biden never saw an MBNA donor contribution that he didn’t love (like in 2008 when he sold all future generations out for a $250,000 payout from MBNA).
I just don’t see how real estate wealth translates to industry. In general, many of Trump’s areas don’t fully align with the Republican establishment who, in my observation, generally are from real estate, energy, and industry as you mentioned.
Thinking about it more, it seems like real estate has a lot of overlap in both parties.
OurToothbrush ( @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml ) 2•8 months agoHigh fixed capital
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) 5•8 months ago
Both are fascist, the only difference is where the fascism is pointed. That’s why you’ll see a lot of fake leftists support Biden, because they don’t care about the world all they care about are themselves.
cannache ( @Cannacheques@slrpnk.net ) 1•8 months agoIt’s a bipolar world buddy and your mind and body is sport for the hunters lol
moonlit2107 ( @moonlit2107@lemm.ee ) 18•8 months agoI’m not voting for this man a second time. No more harm reduction. I’m not degrading myself by voting for a genocide enabler.
Zorque ( @Zorque@kbin.social ) 17•8 months agoWee! We get full harm because you only want perfection at all times with no effort at all! Woohoo!
moonlit2107 ( @moonlit2107@lemm.ee ) 14•8 months agoMy effort is contributing to my community and the less fortunate. You think me bubbling in a check mark for someone who is giving the thumbs up for an ethnic cleansing and genocide is putting in work? Go outside.
thilo ( @thilo@lemmy.ml ) 2•8 months agoDear young people, “Don’t Vote” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0e9guhV35o
AnonTwo ( @AnonTwo@kbin.social ) 15•8 months agoWhoever you vote for will support Israel. US ally and all.
moonlit2107 ( @moonlit2107@lemm.ee ) 9•8 months agoThen I simply will not vote.
popcap200 ( @popcap200@lemmy.ml ) 11•8 months agoThrowing trans, gays, women, poor people, minorities etc. under the bus because Biden who has called for a ceasefire in Gaza isn’t doing enough.
Not voting because the democrat isn’t left enough for you is an extremely privileged outlook to have.
fckgwrhqq2yxrkt ( @fckgwrhqq2yxrkt@beehaw.org ) 6•8 months agoThis exact attitude is how we got where we are. Don’t vote for policies you don’t believe in. There are other candidates, win or lose, vote for one that represents you.
popcap200 ( @popcap200@lemmy.ml ) 7•8 months agoThis isn’t how we got here. The people that don’t vote tend to be left leaning. Republicans do vote, in mass. I fail to see how thinking not voting/voting third party is how we got here.
moonlit2107 ( @moonlit2107@lemm.ee ) 5•8 months agoBiden has not called for a ceasefire. He has called for a humanitarian pause until they can get hostages and foreign nationals out, so they can resume bombing. I’ll continue using my vote as my voice. You are free to do whatever you want.
popcap200 ( @popcap200@lemmy.ml ) 3•8 months agoWait, that’s literally a cease fire though? He’s not calling for a peace agreement or truce. He’s calling for a temporary cessation of hostilities.
KingOfSleep ( @KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca ) 3•8 months agoThat’ll show 'em.
thilo ( @thilo@lemmy.ml ) 1•8 months agoDear young people, “Don’t Vote” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0e9guhV35o
fiercekitten ( @fiercekitten@lemm.ee ) English10•8 months agoYou getting downvoted for refusing to vote for Biden for a very valid reason is proof of how broken our two-party system is. This is why every state needs to pass ranked-choice voting. Maine did it and proved it could be done, and now they get to vote for who they actually /want/ without having their vote “spoiled”.
Everyone in the US should be working to get ranked-choice voting in their state.
Poggervania ( @Poggervania@kbin.social ) 8•8 months agoSpoiler alert: This would have most likely happened regardless of the D or R next to the president’s name on the ballot.
There’s two reasons I could see the US supporting Israel regardless of who’s in charge: the logical one because it has historical precedent is that the US wants Israel as a buffer for Russia due to it’s strategic location in the Middle-East, and the other reason is more conspiracy theory but I wouldn’t be surprised if the US can somehow get access to Palestine’s oil if Israel beats the shit out of the Hamas.
HobbitFoot ( @HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ) English4•8 months agoOr third, Israel has invested a lot in American politics after Eisenhower used American economic power against Israeli allies in the Suez Crisis, seeing that it needed to be on good terms with at least one super power and the USA seemed like the more natural fit. This includes going as far as supporting any primary challenger that pledges Israeli support.
It was either that or go the way of its apartheid nuclear buddy, South Africa.
cannache ( @Cannacheques@slrpnk.net ) 1•8 months agoHow is Biden a warmonger?
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 13•8 months agoI get why - congress is increasingly useless - but there’s obvious accountability problems there.
HuddaBudda ( @HuddaBudda@kbin.social ) 9•8 months agoBut during some of those conversations, managers have told staffers they should not expect to influence U.S. policy on Israel-Palestine regardless of their national security chops, according to five current and one recently departed State Department officials who talked to HuffPost.
Keep in mind, that Biden has asked for a humanitarian cease fire in Gaza. This information is like fresh of last night, so I don’t expect news agencies to catch up fast.
It looks like Biden is lagging behind public opinion on this one, but he is turning course.
What that means going forward will depend on how much aid is let in Gaza by Israel.
Biden is specifically avoiding the term “cease-fire”:
The White House has refused to call for a cease-fire but has signaled that the Israelis should consider humanitarian pauses to allow civilians to receive aid and for foreign nationals trapped on the strip to leave Gaza.
HobbitFoot ( @HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ) English3•8 months agoYeah, but probably because using the term would cause major political problems for him.
transientDCer ( @transientDCer@lemdro.id ) English10•8 months agoAsking for a cease fire to move people out. Nothing about them being able to return to their homes or land.
HuddaBudda ( @HuddaBudda@kbin.social ) 6•8 months agoHitting the breaks on this whole mess is the first step. I will most certainly not call this a victory for just beginning.
But at least now the people in power understand that this is a problem. Versus the previous mindset of:" kill all humans, full speed ahead."
BartsBigBugBag ( @BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf ) English3•8 months agoForcing people out of their homes so that they can be occupied by Israel isn’t hitting the brakes, it’s accelerating it.
cannache ( @Cannacheques@slrpnk.net ) 1•8 months agoIt’s like the war on drugs but worse. Technically the US doesn’t really have a horse in the race so to speak. I doubt that the USA, nor the oil giants across the Middle East are inclined to involve themselves in a potential paradigm shift of global politics into WW3 directly after the disaster that was Trump’s election loss and subsequent social disorder.
Personally although I feel like a one state secular, democratic solution but with multiple internal use passports would suit the whole lot of them better. If you choose to carry card X y or z you become the subject to a different set of religious rules return unique benefits. You can theoretically try to carry all three but you’re going to have a hard time computing let alone complying with all of the religious rules all the time.
If we ignore the humanitarian issue of the bombings so to speak, because war, like hell is a gift in itself by all measures, I think the fairest solution would simply be for the most stable, responsible and directly involved guy in the room - Benny boy, to pay up and fix his own shit he’s created by actually building more homes and infrastructure on both sides of the fence and giving the Palestinians a card printing system, redraw the lines on the map and let them decide their own laws, rather than kicking people out of their homes and bulldozing stuff without a plan, creating a system of displacement which realistically nobody wants, just to let the terrorists come back and make pipe bombs and other weapons from the scraps.
Hopefully someone found my verbal diarrhoea to be constructive
supersane ( @supersane@lemmy.ml ) 5•8 months agoAt this point, I can confidently say that Israel controls America.
Karyoplasma ( @Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ) 5•8 months agoNot quite true. Israel gets a lot of support from the US government because it’s a useful ally.
It’s the vanguard in the coveted Middle Eastern region (lots of oil) that is incidentally hated by everyone around them so you can easily use their status to provoke proxy wars, then invade and claim plausible deniability by saying you just helped out your ally.
I_am_10_squirrels ( @I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ) 3•8 months agoPlus the delicious state surveillance tools
FriendBesto ( @FriendBesto@lemmy.ml ) 5•8 months agoAin’t that illegal?
stewie3128 ( @stewie3128@lemmy.ml ) 1•8 months agoWould be great if he said that about funding the American government.