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TwiddleTwaddle ( TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 years ago

High Speed Rule

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High Speed Rule

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TwiddleTwaddle ( TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 years ago
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    3 years ago

    I am five of those

    • breadcodes ( breadcodes@lemm.ee ) 
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      3 years ago

      I was about to ask why they put Leftists on there 8 times, but maybe it’s just us!

      • RothyBuyak ( RothyBuyak@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Excuse me most leftist I know prefer cannabis or psychedelics, not cocaine

  • balls_expert ( balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Wait why weebs

    • Justin ( jlh@lemmy.jlh.name ) 
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      新幹線

  • qwop ( qwop@programming.dev ) 
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    It’s difficult to build a high speed railway without making it go through some green space, so environmentalists won’t always be happy :P

    • gerbal ( gerbal@beehaw.org ) 
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      Rail through green spaces is much less destructive than equivalent motor vehicle infrastructure.

      Plus then you get a nice train ride through beautiful green place.

  • shawnj2 ( shawnj2@startrek.website ) 
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    Car enthusiasts who dislike traffic as well

  • LoamImprovement ( LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) 
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    Everyone else to bottoms and cocaine addicts:

  • ihavenopeopleskills ( ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social ) 
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    Metro rail has its place, particularly in large metropolitan areas. $20 to go from San Diego to Oceanside with AC outlets yet without I-5 traffic is superb. I’m a fan of the WMATA Metro (DC area) as well.

    For an inter-city high-speed offering, I’m fairly skeptical. We have Amtrak and compared to air travel it costs just as much yet takes several times as long to move me across the country. It would have to be a high-volume route with a proven market for me to support it.

    • Tnaeriv ( Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      That’s because American rail transport is fundamentally broken, not because rail in general is broken

    • Mr_Will ( Mr_Will@kbin.social ) 
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      Try looking at somewhere that does have high-speed rail, rather than only considering Amtrak’s broken offering.

      As an example; consider the journey from Paris to Nice. It’s a 580 mile drive taking ~9 hours, a 1.5 hour flight costing £129 or a 5.5 hour train ride costing £71.

      Once you include the hassle and time required for airport security, the gap between the train and plane closes significantly. 1.5 hours flying plus 2 hours at the airport before takeoff and another half hour after landing takes it up to 4 hours already, rather than the train where you can just walk into the station and get on. Then there’s the comfort and facilities on-board. A cramped economy flight Vs a comfortable train with leg room, space to move around, charging plugs, etc.

      When you look at it like this, is it worth spending nearly twice as much for a slightly faster but less comfortable journey? High speed trains excel over middle-distance journeys, too long to comfortably drive but too short for flying to really make sense. Imagine a train that would take you from the San Diego to the centre of San Fransisco in less than 5 hours, running 10+ times per day and costing less than flying. That’s the reality of high speed rail in many countries. Can you really not see a market for it in the USA?

      • IntentionallyAnon ( IntentionallyAnon@lemm.ee ) 
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        6-8 hours is not a pleasant drive from around San Francisco to around Los Angeles

        I would take a train

    • PugJesus ( PugJesus@kbin.social ) 
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      There is no market because passenger rail is inefficient.

      Because rail has no market, there’s no incentive to make passenger rail more efficient.

      The circle of American transport since the 60s.

    • Supersonic Stork ( supersonicstork@beehaw.org ) 
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      Wendover has a great video explaining why AMTRAK is so piss poor compared to other countries. Here it is!

  • hiyaaaaa23 ( hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social ) 
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    Lmao

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