- m0darn ( @m0darn@lemmy.ca ) 11•11 months ago
Here’s how it should have gone:
photographer waiting for good lighting
Embassy doesn’t feel nervous because they have at least one iota of experience observing humans
Another pretty good scenario:
photographer waiting for good lighting
Embassy: Hey why are you hanging around out there?
Photographer: oh I’m just writing for the light to good for this very common tourist photo opportunity
Embassy: okay, but please don’t take photos of us
Here’s another situation:
photographer waiting for good lighting
Police: Hey we got a call that you’re loitering here, and it’s making people nervous. What are you up to?
Photographer: I don’t think I need to explain myself, it’s pretty obvious I’m trying to get a good photo of the very common tourist photo opportunity.
Police: okay just make sure you’re not blocking the sidewalk.
- nyan ( @nyan@lemmy.cafe ) English10•11 months ago
If they have enough police (not by-law officers) to be patrolling the area for loiterers, then they have too many police. Someone obviously called this in. So who was it, and why were they so uncomfortable with a photographer’s presence? (My bet is, US consulate intelligence attaché acting paranoid.)
- moody ( @moody@lemmings.world ) 7•11 months ago
They were not patrolling, they were called to the scene.
It’s still stupid though.
- blindsight ( @blindsight@beehaw.org ) 6•11 months ago
From the article, someone called 911. Presumably personnel from the US consulate, but they should have used their discretion when a professional photographer explained they were waiting for the correct lighting for their photo. That’s perfectly reasonable.
He wasn’t taking pictures in the windows of the consulate or loitering, which explicitly requires there to be “no purpose” to being there, which he clearly demonstrated.
I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t believe the police have the right to demand ID when you’re not suspected of breaking any laws, either.
- Nik282000 ( @nik282000@lemmy.ca ) 7•11 months ago
How about the cops focus on the thousands of cars being stolen instead of some guy with a camera. Oh, wait, that’s hard work and they wouldn’t get to harass anybody.
- Smk ( @Smk@lemmy.ca ) 2•11 months ago
How about the cops comes in when we call them ?? Oh wait, that’s what just happened.
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 1•11 months ago
That’s not something they can go after
Better anti-thief is what you are looking for; like removing the computer from cars
- Nik282000 ( @nik282000@lemmy.ca ) 5•11 months ago
That’s not something they can go after
Car theft is not something that police can go after? If it is up to me to just make my property less steal-able then why the fuck do we have police at all?
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 1•11 months ago
Having them check every shipping container leaving our country would destroy the economy and smugglers would just go cross border
- Nik282000 ( @nik282000@lemmy.ca ) 4•11 months ago
Containers from not-janky, high volume, shippers gets them sealed with a tag before they go on the truck. Check the ones without tags.
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 1•11 months ago
They can re-register cars and you think they can’t get around tags?
- Nik282000 ( @nik282000@lemmy.ca ) 2•11 months ago
You’ve never seen one of these tags.
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 1•11 months ago
Re-read what I said and try to explain how these tags are harder than that
Remembering that you are claiming that infiltrating Service Ontario is easier than infiltrating these companies
- Concetta ( @vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•11 months ago
Ah yes, you can see how well having less computers works by how hard Kia and Hyundai’s are to steal in the US.
- Nik282000 ( @nik282000@lemmy.ca ) 2•11 months ago
Kia removed the chip-in-key feature to save money, they essentially had no anti-theft measures at all.
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 1•11 months ago
Our most common technique is to remove the headlight and connect to the computer through that because people stopped keeping their Bluetooth fobs at the door and people have doorbell cameras
Cheap cars aren’t really worth sending over to Africa
- Nik282000 ( @nik282000@lemmy.ca ) 3•11 months ago
The head light thing is because manufactures use the same CAN bus (network) to control security features and lighting. So by saving 50 feet of wire they expose unprotected access to the car’s computers.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A professional photographer from Charlottetown, P.E.I., has been fined $230 for “loitering” while he was taking pictures of Quebec City’s iconic Château Frontenac hotel.
John Morris says he was standing on a sidewalk opposite the U.S. consulate near the famed hotel around noon on Tuesday, waiting for some clouds to arrive to get the perfect shot, when police officers approached him and told him to leave.
He said the officers only explained that he was loitering and issued the fine for it after he was put in the back of a police cruiser.
She said when the police officers arrived, they determined that the individual was breaking a municipal bylaw and asked him to provide his identity, but he refused, so they arrested him.
Quebec City’s municipal bylaw says that is “prohibited for a person, without a reasonable motive … to loiter, wander or sleep in a street or a public space.”
Florence Boucher Cossette, a criminal defence lawyer who has worked on loitering cases before, says the legal definition of the offence is unclear and is used arbitrarily by law enforcement.
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- cavemeat ( @cavemeat@beehaw.org ) English5•11 months ago
Oh my god
- DAMunzy ( @DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 3•11 months ago
I think some of us USAers should go to there and take some pictures of the USA consulate. Still waiting on my passport to come in plus I’m lazy and probably won’t do it. But some of you should. 😘
Ugh, also it’s a 9 hour drive one way for me.
U.S. Consulate General Quebec City
Foreign consulate in Quebec City, Quebec
Address: 2 Pl. Terr. Dufferin, Québec, QC G1R 4T9, Canada
Hours: Opens 9 AM (Eastern timezone)
Phone: +1 418-692-2095