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0x815 ( 0x815@feddit.de )  to Europe@feddit.deEnglish · 3 years ago

Rishi Sunak Reportedly Said "It Was Okay To Just Let People Die" Rather than Impose a Second Lockdown During the Pandemic, UK Covid Inquiry Hears

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Rishi Sunak Reportedly Said "It Was Okay To Just Let People Die" Rather than Impose a Second Lockdown During the Pandemic, UK Covid Inquiry Hears

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0x815 ( 0x815@feddit.de )  to Europe@feddit.deEnglish · 3 years ago
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Cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/5894634

Original link: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/uk-pm-sunak-reportedly-said-just-let-people-die-covid-inquiry-hears-4590764

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  • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 ( tryptaminev@feddit.de ) 
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    Give him two more years as PM and even Maggi Thatcher would consider him a real Brit…

  • wischi ( wischi@programming.dev ) 
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    I don’t know the guy but to be fair there is always a risk tradeoff. We also accept it to be OK if people die in car accidents. The alternative would be to forbid traveling by car.

    • tetraodon ( tetraodon@feddit.it ) deleted by creator
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      No it’s not OK if people die in traffic accidents. And in fact we do our best to prevent it from happening, e.g. by passing laws making wearing seatbelts compulsory, lowering speed limits, discouraging drunk driving, etc.

      • wischi ( wischi@programming.dev ) 
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        It depends what you mean by “our best”. We try to reduce the risk without sacrificing too much. Wearing a seatbelt is trivial, because there are basically no downsides. We could also half all the speed limits - that would reduce the risk a ton. But we don’t do that because people like to drive fast because they (up too a risk balance) value their time more than their life (sounds rough but that’s basically what it is).

        It’s the same with pandemics. Of course a lockdown prevents a lot of deaths, but at what cost? Is it worth it. We wouldn’t half all the speed limits to reduce risk?

        I’m not against lockdowns in general, for example during the first covid wave because it bought us valuable time to figure out how we proceed, but a lockdown is (figuratively and literally) high cost.

      • bane_killgrind ( bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml ) 
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        We design roadways and construct expensive intersections for the exact purpose of pedestrian safety

    • adderaline ( ondoyant@beehaw.org ) 
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      appealing to existing harms being done in the world to justify more harms is not really a compelling argument. we have done a lot to mitigate the risk of car travel, and there are plenty of people who see the damage cars do to people and our environment and advocate for better transit solutions that are less likely to harm people. the reality is they could have done more, saved lives, by limiting the spread of the disease more than they did. they didn’t, and their failure to act responsibly can and should be criticized.

    • A2PKXG ( A2PKXG@feddit.de ) 
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      Absolutely. But most humans aren’t rational being and consider such statements unacceptable.

      We definitely have ways to spend more money ok healthcare or charities, with obvious positive consequences. However we’re far from spending every last penny on it. This is because it isn’t our top priority.

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    deleted by creator

    • rainynight65 ( rainynight65@feddit.de ) 
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      I’m back to masking up on trains and in crowded places. Someone wants to give me stick about it, they can go have a nice big steaming cup of MYOFB.

  • macniel ( DmMacniel@feddit.de ) 
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    Another outing of Sunak as being a fucking sociopathic psychotic and bigoted asshole.

    • Vivarevo ( Vivarevo@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Significant wealth causes visible to scans brain dmg.

  • RedPandaRaider ( RedPandaRaider@feddit.de ) 
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    Removed by mod

    • optissima (she/her) ( optissima@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Then I recommend you follow your values starting with yourself as an example.

      • RedPandaRaider ( RedPandaRaider@feddit.de ) 
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        What a dumbass comment. I’m no 70+ and leeching off society.

        • Primarily0617 ( Primarily0617@kbin.social ) 
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          so you won’t retire ever?

          you’ll just put a bullet between your own eyes and save society the trouble of looking after you?

          no obviously not because that expectation would be insane

          • RedPandaRaider ( RedPandaRaider@feddit.de ) 
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            You need to learn to read. I never said anything about people not being allowed to retire. I was talking about people getting too old.

            And yes if I ever become too old, I’ll go out on my own terms.

            • Primarily0617 ( Primarily0617@kbin.social ) 
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              maybe you should leech some lessons on behaving like a normal human from society

              • RedPandaRaider ( RedPandaRaider@feddit.de ) 
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                Maybe you should leech some lessons on human civilization, history and socioeconomics.

                You’re flipping out here over a rational argument.

                • Primarily0617 ( Primarily0617@kbin.social ) 
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                  ah yes history

                  that time in the past when we executed old people for being old

                  truly you have a dizzying intellect

    • IWantToFuckSpez ( IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social ) 
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      Another German rooting for die Endlösung again.

    • Primarily0617 ( Primarily0617@kbin.social ) 
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      so could roaming death squads going door to door at nursing homes

      what’s your point?

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