- cross-posted to:
- android@lemdro.id
- hackernews@lemmy.smeargle.fans
- lineageos@lemmy.ml
TheMadnessKing ( @TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id ) English40•7 months agoHonestly, Custom ROMs have been in decline of usage since few years. There are also Other ROMS like Pixel Experience, PixyOS, Havoc, evolutionX, PixelOS, Paranoid, Derpfest, CrDroid and lot more.
The reason for the drop is due to a combination of reasons like better OEM UI, unpublished Kernel code (Chinese OEMs, Mediatek), locked bootloaders and Safetynet issues.
I’m currently rocking CrDroid it has currently ~85K active devices (https://stats.crdroid.net/).
MonkderZweite ( @MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ) English3•7 months agoSafetynet issues
Fun part of this is that it relies entirelly on Googles tracking framework.
CoderKat ( @CoderKat@lemm.ee ) English2•7 months agoDo custom ROMs still have issues with some apps not allowing them? It’s been an eternity since I tried one and I don’t know if it’s a hard requirement, but at least when I did try it, I had (?) to root my device and my bank apps refused to work after that.
Gunpachi ( @gunpachi@lemmings.world ) English1•7 months agoSome banking or payment apps can detect root and won’t let you use them.
When I used to run Custom ROMs I just used magisk to hide the root and these apps would work fine afterwards.
TheMadnessKing ( @TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id ) English1•7 months agoI haven’t encountered such a thing yet (been using for 5 months).
There are lot of methods to bypass those checks even now, and often many ROMs do this by default. (LineageOS doesn’t do that afaik)
nfsu2 ( @nfsu2@feddit.cl ) English29•7 months agoLineage OS is really great, I recommend the forked version with MicroG bundled to use google apps.
shortwavesurfer ( @shortwavesurfer@monero.town ) English13•7 months agoDepends on how pure you want to be. If you are a purest, that is a bad thing to do.
nfsu2 ( @nfsu2@feddit.cl ) English4•7 months agoWell yes you are right, but being completely pure is borderline impossible IMO, and most people transition slowly.
shortwavesurfer ( @shortwavesurfer@monero.town ) English5•7 months agoTrue. I have been using Lineage with no gapps package for a bit over 4 years now. I no longer even have a google account as of almost 2 years ago.
tetris11 ( @tetris11@lemmy.ml ) English3•7 months agoOr, just skip that step altogether
nfsu2 ( @nfsu2@feddit.cl ) English10•7 months agoIf you aren’t sure if you can fully degoogle then it a great offer. Unfortunately many apps depend on GSF so its understandable.
umbrella ( @umbrella@lemmy.ml ) English2•7 months agoI want to move away from GSF, how is MicroG working nowadays? I used it some years ago but it was buggy with any app related to mapping, and some other quirks.
nfsu2 ( @nfsu2@feddit.cl ) English2•7 months agoIt works perfectly in my case can’t say for others. You should check their issues page in github about your device.
Fisch ( @Fisch@lemmy.ml ) English1•7 months agoWorks perfectly fine for me. I’ve also used an app that used Google Maps in it and it worked perfectly fine. Instead of Google Maps it displayed the map on OpenStreetMap.
Kaldo ( @Kaldo@kbin.social ) 1•7 months agoIs it equal to a regular android? Will the usual banking apps work on it, for example?
sadreality ( @sadreality@kbin.social ) 6•7 months agoThey work in the browser;)
For now
Fisch ( @Fisch@lemmy.ml ) English1•7 months agoThe Sparkasse (german bank) app works perfectly fine. I use LineageOS with microG and I’m not logged in with a Google account or anything.
ඞmir ( @Amir@lemmy.ml ) English1•7 months agoNowadays with SafetyNet hardware checks it’s a dangerous game to rely on that.
Scrubbles ( @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ) English25•7 months ago1hr 45mins?!
rgb3x3 ( @rgb3x3@beehaw.org ) English12•7 months agoIt’s a podcast. Most people listen to it while doing other things and don’t watch it in a single sitting.
If you don’t want to watch it, then don’t, but it really is a great podcast.
BearOfaTime ( @BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ) English3•7 months agoDamn, Sweet Brown. Ain’t seen her in forever!
aprnu ( @aprnu@feddit.ch ) English22•7 months agoHere you can take a look at popularity by device
lemmyvore ( @lemmyvore@feddit.nl ) English21•7 months agoAnd it could’ve even been useful, had they not chosen to show the code names instead of the make and model…
Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English11•7 months agoLineage os is great
randomaside ( @randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English11•7 months agoThere are DOZENS OF US! DOZENS!!
nossaquesapao ( @nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br ) English10•7 months agoIt’s hard to find estimates of android devices, but most reports I found indicate around 3 billion, and this makes us around 0,05%. I expected it to be low, but not like that…
u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org) ( @user224@lemmy.sdf.org ) English7•7 months agoBut how much of that is phones? There’s a lot of other devices running Android.
nossaquesapao ( @nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br ) English4•7 months agoGood point. I found no data making that distinction, so we can’t really know.
drcobaltjedi ( @drcobaltjedi@programming.dev ) English4•7 months agoSee the calculator some guy made run doom or a barcode scanner at my job.
Android is a fairly good target development platform, it’s still getting updates, apps built for older versions of android still work on newer versions, large active tallent pool both perfessionally and hobbyist, absolute metric fuck ton of tutorials. Yeah, if you’re making a new product it isn’t hard to just make it an android computer and throw am app on there that you make that does the thing.
BearOfaTime ( @BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ) English3•7 months agoI recently used a Holter monitor that was an Android phone.
I’ve seen many, many handheld devices in retail environments that are clearly Android based.
YarrMatey ( @YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English8•7 months agoI wish I could install lineage on my s10+ snapdragon. I just got this phone and now I just ordered a pixel to get grapheneos. I was willing to pay this guy on telegram to unlock my phone so I could try to get lineage to work or at least a custom rom, but my bootloader is one update off, I have v6 but he only supports up to v5. I hate ordering new devices when my current ones are still functional. I also am getting rid of my fitbit I also just got and replacing it with the amazon band 5 since it can connect to gadgetbridge. Degoogling is expensive, it shouldn’t be this bad just to get privacy. I’m not sure what to do with my devices I am replacing, but I hate that they had to be replaced in the first place. I also switched from google services to proton mail/drive/vpn.
dorumon ( @dorumon@lemm.ee ) English4•7 months agoKeep them forever like I do! Just start collecting smartphones because it’s better for the environment. I have like 10 of them never going into a landfill. Maybe find people who actually need phones idk.
Fisch ( @Fisch@lemmy.ml ) English2•7 months agoI’m thinking about selling my old phones on eBay. It’s better if someone can get any use out of them instead of them just laying around in my room.
dorumon ( @dorumon@lemm.ee ) English1•7 months agoYeah you should probably do that instead. Or be like me and switch phones everyday for some reason. Go insane use an iPhone and then an android phone than a phone from 2016 you have to custom rom to get working again because it’s last update was from 2018 and you have to replace the battery.
ඞmir ( @Amir@lemmy.ml ) English8•7 months agoHow did they measure this?
Simpletim ( @Simpletim@lemmynsfw.com ) English3•7 months agoI don’t know the exact modus operandi, but usually this is achieved by using some “phone home” mechanism which sends a device identifier (to ensure uniqueness) along with an OS version (and maybe some other fingerprints to ensure integrity of the data - like a hash of CPU hardware, etc).
bort ( @bort@feddit.de ) English7•7 months agodo banking apps work on it again?
Unreliable ( @Unreliable@lemmy.ml ) English11•7 months agoIt’s a constant cat and mouse game with Google. You can use Magisk with Zygisk enabled, Shamiko, and Play Integrity Fix (there’s also a few other combos that work) to get baking apps to work. I have no issues on my rooted Pixel 8 Pro, but it’s always a gamble if Google updates their end and then you get locked out of Google Wallet for a day once you update your fixes (not banking apps).
Mike ( @itmike@fikaverse.club ) 2•7 months ago bort ( @bort@lemmy.sdf.org ) English1•7 months agoYou talking to me?
Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) English1•7 months agoUnfortunately GPay / Google Wallet has been borked on most ROMs since the recent Google shenanigans about a week ago. Even those not rooted. I got hit by that, running ArrowOS and not being rooted.
My bank’s app works though so eh, lost some convenience but can get things done.
Fisch ( @Fisch@lemmy.ml ) English1•7 months agoDepends on your bank. My bank’s app (Sparkasse) has always worked, even when I had Magisk installed.
LoboAureo ( @loboaureo@lemm.ee ) English6•7 months agoWill be +1 when have official support for the poco X5 pro. (If I can pay with mobile)
🤓
janguv ( @janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•7 months ago(If I can pay with mobile)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but so long as you root with Magisk and configure the denylist, installing the SafetyNet Fix and changing the Props if you need to spoof a device ID, then you’ll always be able to use Google Pay/contactless, regardless of whether on Lineage or another custom ROM.
🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️ ( @Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) English5•7 months agoI had LineageOS on my Nexus 4. Every damn phone I’ve had since hasn’t had any custom ROM available (and one couldn’t even be rooted; fuck Samsung). I want it back.
ɐɥO ( @Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz ) English4•7 months agoLineage is fucking Awesome. I fucking love android without google crap
hexloc ( @hexloc@feddit.nl ) English4•7 months agoDoes this include devices running unofficial ports of lineageOS?
tetris11 ( @tetris11@lemmy.ml ) English2•7 months agoRepresent
bufalo1973 ( @bufalo1973@lemmy.ml ) English3•7 months agoI’ve changed thanks to not having any update on my Moto G7 Power since 2021.