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silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) M to Climate@slrpnk.netEnglish · 3 years ago

Eat Less Meat Is Message for Rich World in Food’s First Net Zero Plan

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Eat Less Meat Is Message for Rich World in Food’s First Net Zero Plan

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silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) M to Climate@slrpnk.netEnglish · 3 years ago
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(Bloomberg) -- The world’s most-developed nations will be told to curb their excessive appetite for meat as part of the first comprehensive plan to bring the global agrifood industry into line with the Paris climate agreement.Most Read from BloombergRussia Downs Drones Over Moscow in Ukrainian Retaliatory StrikeChina Says Multiple Pathogens Are Behind Spike in Respiratory IllnessesSodium in Batteries: Shift May Herald Another ShakeupMarkets Cheer as Milei Drops Dollarization for Macri BrassEvery
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  • ElcaineVolta ( ElcaineVolta@kbin.social ) 
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    3 years ago

    living vegan has never been easier!

  • OnU ( OnU@lemm.ee ) 
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    Plant based for the environment, vegan for the animals🖖

  • Hotzilla ( Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    Eat…Rich…Eat the rich! Ok!

  • Nonameuser678 ( Nonameuser678@aussie.zone ) 
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    My recommendation is learn to love lentils. Replace the beef in your spag bol with them. So good and so much cheaper. Also beans, there are so many good things you can do with them.

    • UraniumBlazer ( UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee ) 
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      Lentils r amazing, although they severely lack protein. Plus, they alone do not have all 9 required amino acids. To get them, u need to consume lentils AND beans.

      The daily RDA for me is around 56 grams of protein. If I had to meet this demand via lentils and beans alone, then I would need to consume around 460 grams of lentils and beans DAILY. Yeah… Imagine the AMOUNT of gases after that lol.

      HOWEVER, there still is a solution that I found. Say hello to “TVP”, ie., “Texturised Vegetable Protein”. This basically concentrates all this protein, while having all 9 required amino acids. To meet my RDA, I would need to consume just 120 grams.

      I still do have lentils and beans sometimes. However, TVP is still always present in some form.

      • CurrentBias ( currentbias@open-source-eschaton.net ) 
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        @UraniumBlazer @Nonameuser678 56 grams of protein from all sources. There is protein in almost everything you eat, and it combines to reach that goal. You don’t have to get all 56 grams from just lentils and beans

        Also, it’s rice or some other grain you want to pair with lentils to achieve a complete protein, not beans – beans are legumes, and most legumes have a similar amino acid profile

        • UraniumBlazer ( UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee ) 
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          Well wheat and rice have like under 4 gm of protein per 100gm. Vegetables are even less than this. I would have to eat kilos and kilos of stuff to meet my RDA this way.

          Also, it’s rice or some other grain you want to pair with lentils to achieve a complete protein, not beans – beans are legumes, and most legumes have a similar amino acid profile

          Oh yeah, I looked this up. I don’t see the beans lentil thing that I mentioned anywhere. So ig u’r right. I think I saw this in some YouTube video.

    • soupcat ( soupcat@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      This, I basically never buy any ‘vegan’ products. I just sub mince with red and yellow lentils and barley, it’s great and cheap. Add lots of veggies and you’ve got a delicious meal.

  • soupcat ( soupcat@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    So many good reasons to eat less meat.

  • Beefalo ( jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social ) 
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    The good news is that the methane emissions are so damn bad that it also means that relatively modest reductions (in global percentage) will go a long way toward the problem.

  • AEMarling ( AEMarling@slrpnk.net ) 
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    A reminder that oil companies invented “carbon footprint” to distract you while they continue to pollute. Form unions and solidarity networks to overcome harmful systems. Don’t argue over hamburgers.

    • nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN ( nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world ) 
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      Reminder that this doesn’t absolve you from your personal responsibilities. You do need to be making choices that move the world towards a better future.

      Besides that the number one reason for land loss, the loss of biodiversity, nitrate pollution, and methane production is still the bio-industy. Let alone the ethical implications of killing billions of animals a month.

      You can do both. No, you’re obliged to do both. Stop supporting bio-industy and fight for rights.

    • Akisamb ( Akisamb@programming.dev ) 
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      These companies pollute to satisfy a demand. If people stopped driving cars, TotalEnergy and Shell would sell less oil.

      Where these companies are evil is when they try to influence people and politicians. For example jay walking is a crime because of them.

      That said taxing the hell out of these polluting industries is a solution, as it will raise the oil price and force people to consume less.

      • I Cast Fist ( ICastFist@programming.dev ) 
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        It’s not only cars, there are power plants running on oil, nearly every “small” backup generator runs on diesel. Also logistics, trucks, trains and ships needs boatloads of diesel.

  • pinkdrunkenelephants ( pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe ) 
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    I’ll take things that are never going to happen for $500, Alex

    • OnU ( OnU@lemm.ee ) 
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      Do you think it will never happen or that it’s gonna take a lot of time and education? There seems to be a trend that societal change that reaches 3,5% take over an manifest themselfs. (https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world)

    • ThenThreeMore ( andthenthreemore@startrek.website ) 
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      Already happening in some countries https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/24/uk-meat-consumption-lowest-level-since-record-began-data-reveal

  • Destraight ( Destraight@lemm.ee ) 
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    No, stop being billionaires, and give your money away

    • mayooooo ( MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org ) 
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      Yep. I can stop eating food entirely without it making a dent. But if fucking musk could stop flying to the corner store it might help out a bit

  • rhythmisaprancer ( rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social ) 
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    I really think that, if we are to get this to work, we must start with the ranchers as well. I live on one of those ‘more cows than people’ areas, and I don’t think any rancher is going to hang up that income opportunity until they have a viable alternative. Some of them have already diversified to meet ends, but I think most have not.

    • Semi-Hemi-Demigod ( Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ) 
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      Georgism would solve that problem. They wouldn’t be able to make a profit just letting cows graze

      • rhythmisaprancer ( rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social ) 
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        Wow, I just did a brief look at Georgism (on Wikipedia) and there too many new terms and concepts for me to form an opinion right now.

        Thanks for introducing something new! It will take me some time to grasp it.

        • Semi-Hemi-Demigod ( Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ) 
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          I still don’t fully grok it either, but it sounds like a pretty decent solution to a lot of our issues.

  • Teon ( Teon@kbin.social ) 
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    No! Make them eat MORE meat. All meat all day, 5x a day. +meat snacks.
    Clog those arteries as fast as possible and we are finally rid of these idiots who think meat is an essential ingredient to their masculinity.
    This is why they need viagara!
    And someone send them some cigarettes, unfiltered.

  • lntl ( lntl@lemmy.ml ) 
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    carbon tax wouldn’t fix this, meat tax?

    • silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) OP
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      If it covered methane emissions on the basis of CO2e, it could.

      A carbon tax has been politically really tough to pass in the US though.

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        yeah, would never pass federally. there’s got to be a state where this type of thing could get a foothold.

        if it were me, if start in a place with a high gasoline tax, eliminate it, and replace it with a carbon tax that costs less.

        now there is precedence. a foot in the door

        • silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) OP
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          The highest gas tax in the US is California, at $0.51/gallon. That’s not high at all.

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            I found 78¢ in CA. CA is a top three fuel consumer, so a carbon tax there would impact lots of folks. once someone does it, others may follow

            • silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) OP
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              That’s what happens when you add in sales taxes, which are applied to everything. It’s not going to happen so long as it looks like a backdoor way to increase the tax over time.

              • lntl ( lntl@lemmy.ml ) 
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                so many reasons why it won’t happen:

                • backdoor to increase rates
                • hurts automotive industry
                • hurts ff industry
                • hurts poor people
                • hurts agriculture
                • hurts manufacturing
                • hurts retail
                • hurts small businesses
                • hurts big businesses
                • etc

                ultimately, one cannot make an omelette without cracking eggs

                • silence7 ( silence7@slrpnk.net ) OP
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                  You need to get it past the WSPA first, and they know what it is.

    • Franzia ( Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Have you met a rich person who can’t avoid taxes? No but seriously even if every steak cost them $1000 it would not deter them because of the current wealth concentration.

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