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N00b22 ( N00b22@lemmy.ml )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

Microsoft AI Image Generator Blocks 'Disney' After Viral Movie Poster Trend

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Was Disney's IP used to train AI image generators?
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  • Otter ( otter@lemmy.ca ) 
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    It’s a little ironic that they protect SOME copyright and artistic styles (from giant corporations producing media) but not other copyright and artistic styles (independent artists and creators)

    So all the reasons they listed here, it’s ok to do that to everyone else just not Disney 😒

    Time to switch to the open source / self hosted / jailbroken creation tools instead

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    • Chozo ( Chozo@kbin.social ) 
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      It’s not that ironic. In this case, the tool was creating a near-identical replication of the Disney logo. Generally, AI hasn’t been able to convincingly reproduce a logo like that with any degree of reliability (for instance, the jumbled logos in the Getty Images situation). It looks like the AI has actually advanced to the point where it actually violates Disney’s trademark. That crosses the line of fair use at that point.

      • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 ( tryptaminev@feddit.de ) 
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        I find that differentiation fir a logo silly though.

        copy pasting a logo on top after the ai generated the rest really isnt that difficult.

        So how would Disney know reliably that the memes are indeed made with a violation by MS?

        • null ( null@slrpnk.net ) Banned from community
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          They don’t need to determine on an individual basis. It’s simple enough to prove that the tool can do it, so they are enforcing that Microsoft make sure it can’t.

      • Altima NEO ( altima_neo@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Meanwhile the Shutterstock logo is all over sd

    • tastysnacks ( tastysnacks@programming.dev ) 
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      This is a trademark issue isn’t it? Not a copyright.

  • milicent_bystandr ( milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ) 
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    * cracks knuckles * Time to roll out a federated, truly open source generative AI and use it to ((checks notes)) mock Disney.

    • SinAdjetivos ( SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org ) 
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      ✓ Open source generative AI

      ✓ Disney model

      ✓ Federated

      Mock away :D

      • Omega_Haxors ( Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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        Disney model

        Looks promising but i’m not touching that until they use safetensors format. Is anyone able to confirm if it can do pixar poster parodies?

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          Eh, to be fair I just picked a random Disney model… From what I can tell not a very good one either. This one’s better and safetensor format: https://civitai.com/models/65203/disney-pixar-cartoon-type-a

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    “Reproduction of the Disney logo is clear trademark infringement. I would imagine that is why the AI might be jumbling the logo,” Andrew White, partner at IP law firm Mathys & Squire, tells The Financial Times.

    Doesn’t seem clear to me.

    I’m allowed to sketch out the Disney logo by hand, right? But I’m not allowed to place their trademark on any of my own products or services.

    Microsoft’s tool reproduces the Disney logo. Searching “Disney logo” in Google Images also reproduces the Disney logo. I can print the logo from my shitty black and white printer to my heart’s content, right?

    From Bing’s terms of use, section 7:

    Use of Creations. Subject to your compliance with this Agreement, the Microsoft Services Agreement, and our Content Policy, you may use Creations outside of the Online Services for any legal personal, non-commercial purpose.

    • Stoneykins [any] ( Stoneykins@mander.xyz ) 
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      I think they are arguing that using disney stuff as training data would be the infringement, and if the logo showed up in generated images, that would be proof they did that.

      But I’m guessing because it is phrased weird if they meant that. Idk.

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        Seems like the lawyer thinks that AI models deliberately jumble the Disney logo rather than specific text/artifact/logo generation just being a weakness of these types of models. (He’s wrong, he’s attributing intent to something janky/buggy)

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        That is always a dumb argument. People are also „trained“ by watching at the logo. You want to remove the logo from the world?

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          People have rights machines don’t.

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          Haha, let’s not be silly. Everyone in the world just needs to pay for the logo! Individually as well as the collective.

          Then we train 🥷

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    Welp, time to switch back to stable Diffusion

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