@eskuero @Bro666 funny. I’m turning 60 in less than a couple of years and I have been using KDE only for half of my life too 🤪

@MentalEdge I had no anger, only worries and a need for a discussion or clarification. I would however clarify that I am selective about who I talk to or take crap from. So please rest assured that it is entirely personal when I block you.

@MentalEdge Thank you for twisting everything I said with an unstable mental state and a lot of anger directed at a random person on the internet.

In the replies to my post I did get one *proper* reply that clears up the confusion.

You however should go take a long cold bath to see if you can calm yourself down.

@DmMacniel Thanks, I missed that document! This clears up all of my worries.

It also clarifies that it is’t a distro in itself - and that’s the important part :)

This was the proper response, and I salute you for it 🫡

Have a nice day!

@DmMacniel I get that - my point was mainly that by creating a distro of their own, they set a certain baseline, nudging reality away from what the distro (in this case Ubuntu) they use as a baseline offers.

If you use a vanilla distribution as a baseline and then have your testbed on top of that, then there’s no issue and no mixed messages. But if you create your own distro “based on XYZ” then XYZ isn’t the baseline anymore - and that sets a certain message.

@kde 🧵(4/4)

Leave others to what they do best. Focus your efforts on what matters - there is still a whole lot to do in KDE to make it the best there is. A massive amount of issues to work out in the UI/UX so that drawing in new users doesn’t have to be a long walk on broken glass.

And the project manager that thought this would be a good idea? Reassign him to making Kcalc better.

@kde 🧵(3/?)

- until it’s in your face and all of a sudden you realize that you perhaps should have voted differently, as all of a sudden everyone is deporting you, GNOME is taking over and you sit in your little corner cowering in fear.

And no, I’m not talking about a farmer in the US voting for Trump - but there clearly is an analogy.

Wake up and smell the reality. The reality is - you asked the wrong question. It never was “can we do it” or “do we want to do it”.

@kde 🧵(2/?)

Or what if Heinz starts making their own fast-food chain and only supplies their condiments to said chain?

This is a bad idea *because* it is reversing the supply-chain, redirecting efforts that should be focused on the KDE ecosystem (the tip of the iceberg) and moves it to the bottom. Away from what matters.

It WILL eventually lead to KDE isolation, a foundation fragmentation and frivolous forking.

It is that kind of an idea everyone thinks is either great, comical or satirical

@pglpm It’s still an ultimatum.

Even the AI is more socially apt than you.

@pglpm Your perception of your open letter is “polite”.

The boiled down version is “if you do this, then fuck you.” Literally.

There is no such thing as a polite ultimatum.

Sorry, but YTA.

@TerHu @Lojcs

*I* would propose to stop using the K everywhere in naming apps.

“It was Kool bacK in the day when KDE was Kaining traKtion” - but now, it’s a *K*luge.

@bjoern_tantau @artyom How do you get that to compute?

The Steam Frame is a “streaming first” headset - *because* the onboard chip is too feeble for a full onboard OS gaming support.

That means it is a tethered device (WiFi or Wire - still a tether)

The Meta Quest series all support tethering (Wired - OR - WiFi) and the older Occulus devices RELY on a tether. The PS VR can be used on a PC with SteamVR so there’s no stopping it from being used like that too.

I find your computing erroneous.

@caseyweederman @Bro666 Remember - from the proper POV, everyone’s an asshole :)

@caseyweederman @Bro666 that only means one of three things:
a) your sample size of Linux users is too small
b) the echo chamber of Linux users you measure yourself against is too homogeneous (and y’all happen to be nice guys)
or c) you really aren’t a nice guy and you just look down on all Windows users equally.

There’s a lot of nice Windows users - and there’s a lot of not-so-nice Linux users. Don’t get confused when measuring up people - judging a whole group from your POV isn’t good at all.

@Bro666 @Ephera this is it exactly. Those that take it the other way have a much too strong bipartisan way of thinking - everything is on exaggerated scales of a vs b, attacking the person, not the subject.

💪👏🏻 well said!

@who @Bro666 Well, it’s good then that your opinion doesn’t matter? No, it’s not too soon. X11 was a WELL KNOWN security risk *30 years* ago. For 30 years I’ve been managing systems, knowing that even an unprivileged compromise might lead to a machine leaking more than a sieve with its mesh missing.

Will it be disruptive? No. Will it change *your* workflow? Sure, at least in part, if you’re a streamer or have some very borderline needs.

X11 is a cancer long overdue.

@bytesonbike @Bro666 No, but a lot of people have said "I can’t create without Photoshop/Final Cut/Logic/Motion - applications that are Apple-first or Apple-only (and some of them, most of them, come from Apple).

@BlackLaZoR @schnurrito That is not a function of a UI - that’s a function of NetworkManager (or whatever network stack your distro uses).

As for WireGuard - it does that automagically across all platforms and all network stacks I’ve used it on so far - so if it’s not doing it for you, then you got something screwed up somewhere else, deeper down.

@opensuse @kde@lemmy.kde.social @kde@floss.social

Sorry for not having time to sift through 20000+ lines of logs…

@nixCraft@mastodon.social yeah, THAT is why I’d rather trust some entity like Microsoft with my data - at least I know that they respect my choices, although they sometimes tend to forget and reset.

At least they’re not monumental assholes about it.