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@decathorpe Fair enough, but python supported comma as the delimited for input, too.

“The new-style number-to-string formatting language will be extended to allow _ as a thousands separator, where currently only , is supported.”

https://peps.python.org/pep-0515/

It is a tuple. Python supports multiple assignments and this can be achieved by comma separation. For example:

x, y = 1.200,30

x would be 1.2
y would be 30

@decathorpe You’re proving that a German understands the answer 😅. Most Americans don’t know about this differentiation.

It seems there is a new proposal to make _ the thousands separator:

https://peps.python.org/pep-0378/

@mikebabcock@floss.social @decathorpe@mastodon.social IIRC, that behavior is because python is a wrapper on C.

@decathorpe Because “1.200,30” is how a German would write the American equivalent of “1,200.30”, so a German might be more likely to have tried this before and therefore might have a better chance at the result.

Hypothesis: My German friends/followers will be more likely to know the answer than my fellow Americans.

Also, just as with COBOL and Perl, once you go down one path, it is near certain that the other path will be forever blocked from your travel on this adventure.

@raptor85 It’s kind of the opposite, IMO, since Python was older and Lua was trying to fit somewhere in the space around Python, Perl, and Ruby.

https://www.lua.org/doc/hopl.pdf

@raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place Perl is a cat that got ahold of C’s yarn and now there’s bits of string everywhere.

@raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place Python is BASIC and C had a baby.

@raptor85 I was thinking about that. C was high level but over time has been considered more and more low with so many other languages abstracting on top of C. You could argue in favor of Python in the sense because it’s the most high level here.

@TerryHancock You also just described php, perl, rust, javascript, Java, and a whole range of others with that. There are some things where python isn’t frankly just “good enough” and plenty of software focused shops use it. Ansible, Jupyter, AI, Instagram - it’s a massive list.

@TerryHancock I’m guessing whoever said that has never actually programmed in COBOL. The only correlation I can think of is they were both designed to be human friendly to read/write, but the implementation of that concept is extremely different between the two.

Cucumber/Gherkin would be modern COBOL, IMO.

https://cucumber.io/docs/gherkin/reference

If you start from C and get less pedantic, you get python. If you get more pedantic, you get rust. If you stay similarly pedantic, you get golang.

Since I can’t vote in my own poll, my opinion is that the argument can be made any of them, but Go is the most on the nose, both in terms of language design and that it shares a co-author with C (Ken Thompson).

Python is more a modern BASIC (usually) implemented in C. It’s BASIC and C had a baby.

Rust should be on this list because of how many legacy C things are getting ported to rust due to memory and thread safety, etc.

@MisuseCase@twit.social @nextcloud@mastodon.xyz @CollaboraOffice@mastodon.social It’s essentially multi-user collaborative LibreOffice in the browser. It is LibreOffice under the hood in Collabora so you can also edit locally in LibreOffice as well and sync with the nextcloud client, in case you don’t have a current network connection. Nextcloud handles the user, file management, and integrations side of things and the two integrate together nicely as well. The mobile apps, etc. also work between them.

@MisuseCase@twit.social Definitely @nextcloud@mastodon.xyz with @CollaboraOffice@mastodon.social. All the professional talks I gave this year used this combo and it was how we also distributed slides to participants.

@squalouJenkins I had to double take because you maintain a nodejs app that I use 😂

But yeah, I get your sentiment.

@bouncing Having worked in front end and backend development when php was king, I very much would like to push back on blaming python for anything with regard to bad coding. PHP5 let you get away with so much worse than python ever did.

You definitely can write bad python code, but it is still opinionated about a good many things that are good to be opinionated about.