•  Razp   ( @Razp@lemm.ee ) 
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      58 months ago

      “Collective punishment is a war crime”. Except for Palestinians and Russians, of course. And anybody we disagree with. Fuck those civilians.

      We are hypocrites. We have double standards.

      I am just pointing it out.

      • Starving people to death via a siege and not allowing passport holders to visit are worlds apart.

        Aside from that, it would be a violation of sovereignty to say which countries other countries had to allow in. Countries can and do block passports all the time.

        •  Razp   ( @Razp@lemm.ee ) 
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          38 months ago

          You missed the point :

          Russia invades and terrorises the Ukrainian civilians. We punish Russian civilians aka collective punishment.

          Hamas invades Israel and terrorises Israeli civilians. Israel punishes Gaza civilians aka collective punishment.

          In the first case we are OK. In the second case we scream at Israel (the OP post) “Collective punishment is war crime!!”

          We. Are. Hypocrites.

          • Please, by all means, inform the class what “collective punishments” Russian Citizens are currently facing that are directly equivalent to what Israel is doing.

            You won’t because you’re a 🤡 and you know it.

          • You’re missing the forest for the trees.

            I feel like if I continue to argue with you we’ll end up debating what the meaning of every word.

            Blocking people’s access to all food, electricity, and water is entirely different than a country banning travel from another country.

      •  Devi   ( @Devi@beehaw.org ) 
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        58 months ago

        Collective punishment IS a war crime. Travel is a privelege, not being able to go on holiday to specific places isn’t punishment. Do you realise most countries aren’t permitted to travel somewhere?

        •  Razp   ( @Razp@lemm.ee ) 
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          48 months ago

          It’s not about traveling, and not about Russians at all. I just gave an example. Look,

          Ursula von der Leyen was against Russians destroying the energy infrastructure of Ukraine.

          The same Ursula supports energy blockade of Gaza by Israel.

          It’s just pure hypocracy.

          In both cases the civilian population suffers the most. In both cases it’s a war crime and should be condemned.