•  memfree   ( @memfree@beehaw.org ) 
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    578 months ago

    H-h-how? HOW? do they ‘anonymize’ DNA?!?! Remember how in 2007 ‘anonymized’ netflix data was linked back to actual members? That was just checking what people watched on Netflix compared to what they rated on IMDB.

    With DNA, you should be able to figure out who someone is by the fact you an exact DNA record! I mean, it’ll share similarities with your parents, and children, and to a lesser degree, more removed relatives. How hard can it be to figure out that this woman is related to that guy with an arrest record. Or more specifically: this is the exact person because we see other records from any doctor or whatever with the same DNA.

    • This was an obvious outcome when they were going to IPO. When it was announced they were going public, I exported all of my data and had all of my records with them destroyed.

      Then I made a little bit of money on their stock and got out of that too.

    •  The Doctor   ( @drwho@beehaw.org ) 
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      158 months ago

      As a general rule, when someone says that data is anonymized, they’re one part lying and one part clueless. It sounds great when they say it, but ultimately it’s bullshit. Maybe if we started calling claims like this lies when they were made, a few more people would pay attention.

      • That’s basically what it usually is: anonymized so that to discover people’s identities you’d need to combine the data set with at least one other readily available data set.

    • H-h-how? HOW? do they ‘anonymize’ DNA?!?!

      If you really curious, it is possible depending on the sections of the DNA being shared and how aggregated they are. Not saying that this will be the case - it’s quite likely that this sale would be done prioritizing value instead of privacy - but it is possible. The key part is to not treat the whole DNA as a data sample, but specific sequence sections, as isolated as possible.

      And the Netflix example is instructive but not super relevant here. If you already have your SNPs in a public database out there, then yeah 23andMe might not be able to effectively anonymize your samples; but you don’t (I hope).

      • All prisoners in the US, regardless of infraction, have DNA samples taken in many states.

        That is not voluntary.

        It was ruled constitutional by SCOTUS.

        If you had that done, and you have family dumb enough to use 23andme, then you just got screwed, involuntarily, twice.

      •  4dpuzzle   ( @tesseract@beehaw.org ) 
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        8 months ago

        A vast majority of those millions are going to be for the identity rather than just the relevant data. Meanwhile, the genetic profiling companies, drug companies and insurance companies are sociopathic enough to lie through their noses about it.

        I have a strong feeling that the data transfer has already happened through data brokers. They are just easing the public into acceptance.