Most of the people fleeing Reddit aren’t leaving just because of recent changes. A lot of people were already looking for alternatives, yet failing to find one active or familiar enough. So now we’re here.
I dont see most less technical users moving at all without some more UI maturity. The whole federated services thing is just a bit too abstract a concept for most. And right now its difficult to find/join communities outside your instance.
Agreed. I’ve been enjoying this site so far but I know most of my friends would hate it. It needs better UI. They also needa ELI5 all the fediverse shit and then have a TL;DR easily accesible to new visitors.
Or we(the community) needa ELI5 that shit, people can make memes about them, and maybe rename the fediverse because it sounds too generic.
Yeah. Best I can describe it is its like email for message boards.
But I can see definate needs for better community discovery, group like communities from other instances, making reccomendations for similar communities etc.
Honestly, there’s a pull request right now on lemmy-ui for instance agnostic linking, that combined with automatically staying on your instance will completely resolve the only issue I see for normal people.
That and a little jank here and there but that’s bound to get buffed out.
Agree those two changes would be good. Along with making the ability to add topic sorting or community grouping where you can view say, all “technology” communities in a url. Or all Linux communities across instances in a big group etc.
Yeah thats my biggest issue so far… I can’t imagine explaining how to get my non tech literate friends on here yet. I kinda wish it was more ready before the reddit api fallout happened.
Don’t explain it to them, just set them up with one of the bigger instances, and see how they do.
Honestly, I think people are vastly overestimating what people need to understand in order to use the service, once the links keep you on your instance, federation is going to be seamless aside from choosing an instance to sign up on.
The confusion seems unwarranted to me, though. It’s literally the same as email. Every time I discuss fediverse with people, all of their confusion stems from presumed complexity that doesn’t actually exist. The server they pick matters just as much as it does for their email. So the process is: create an account somewhere, and start interacting with communities. That’s it.
Right. Agree. But searching for communities, especially those outside your instance can be wonky. Finding communities and grouping like communities across instances is difficult as it currently sits. And it takes a bit of understanding how to search to find things.
I agree. The software needs a good amount of additional features and UI polish - particularly in the onboarding process - to be attractive to the broad masses.
But the user numbers has doubled in the fediverse these last few days. If that translates into activity this could very well push a bunch of communities over the critical mass.
Because most people just don’t understand it. It’s has a high barrier of entry (relatively speaking) and there aren’t really any good mobile apps. While I love the idea of the fed Ivette I just can’t imagine trying to explain it to everyone that’s isn’t tech savvy.
Most of the people fleeing Reddit aren’t leaving just because of recent changes. A lot of people were already looking for alternatives, yet failing to find one active or familiar enough. So now we’re here.
I dont see most less technical users moving at all without some more UI maturity. The whole federated services thing is just a bit too abstract a concept for most. And right now its difficult to find/join communities outside your instance.
Agreed. I’ve been enjoying this site so far but I know most of my friends would hate it. It needs better UI. They also needa ELI5 all the fediverse shit and then have a TL;DR easily accesible to new visitors.
Or we(the community) needa ELI5 that shit, people can make memes about them, and maybe rename the fediverse because it sounds too generic.
https://calckey.social/tags/Reddit has the best ui i’ve seen in the fediverse but it’s for mastodon
It definitely looks amazing. Though no downvote button made me avoid Mastodon altogether.
Yeah. Best I can describe it is its like email for message boards.
But I can see definate needs for better community discovery, group like communities from other instances, making reccomendations for similar communities etc.
Honestly, there’s a pull request right now on lemmy-ui for instance agnostic linking, that combined with automatically staying on your instance will completely resolve the only issue I see for normal people.
That and a little jank here and there but that’s bound to get buffed out.
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1048
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/pull/1156
Agree those two changes would be good. Along with making the ability to add topic sorting or community grouping where you can view say, all “technology” communities in a url. Or all Linux communities across instances in a big group etc.
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/818
here’s the issue trackers you’re looking for!
Nice. Thanks!
Thats the beauty, it evolves to meet the needs of the users not some shareholders. FOSS in action , I love to see it
Oh hell yeah! This is the exact feature I want missing!
And implementing it on the official UI means it will be more likely to propagate out to the third party apps
Gonna +1 this issue the moment I get home
I never actually used multireddits on reddit, but multisublems? Yeah we need that.
Yeah thats my biggest issue so far… I can’t imagine explaining how to get my non tech literate friends on here yet. I kinda wish it was more ready before the reddit api fallout happened.
Don’t explain it to them, just set them up with one of the bigger instances, and see how they do.
Honestly, I think people are vastly overestimating what people need to understand in order to use the service, once the links keep you on your instance, federation is going to be seamless aside from choosing an instance to sign up on.
The confusion seems unwarranted to me, though. It’s literally the same as email. Every time I discuss fediverse with people, all of their confusion stems from presumed complexity that doesn’t actually exist. The server they pick matters just as much as it does for their email. So the process is: create an account somewhere, and start interacting with communities. That’s it.
Right. Agree. But searching for communities, especially those outside your instance can be wonky. Finding communities and grouping like communities across instances is difficult as it currently sits. And it takes a bit of understanding how to search to find things.
And the app for android doesn’t seem to let you search for and add new communities. It needs to be done from web browser from what I can tell
A lot of links still open in a browser too. Everything needs to just work in the app and be intuitive. Right now it’s just not. Hopefully soon.
I’m sure that as more users join it will get easier
I don’t think it’s too abstract for people. I think we’re all just really bad at explaining it to non-techies.
When you move to a city, choosing the neighborhood you want to buy your house in doesn’t stop you from being able to drive around looking at others.
It ain’t rocket science.
That’s a very good way of explaining it.
See my post history if the ui is bothering you. With Sylus browser add on, some very small ui tweaks make the site much easier on the eyes
I agree. The software needs a good amount of additional features and UI polish - particularly in the onboarding process - to be attractive to the broad masses.
But the user numbers has doubled in the fediverse these last few days. If that translates into activity this could very well push a bunch of communities over the critical mass.
after I found out about the fediverse I’ve wondered why not more people use it and why it wasn’t already popular
For most people it’s just a bit too arcane.
I think that’s true for mastodon, but I suspect it’s going to be way less true for Reddit
Twitter’s value proposition is roughly “one big giant conversation with everyone” and the federation stuff adds some complexity to that.
Reddit already acted like a federation. There are ui and discoverability issues but they seem very solvable.
Because most people just don’t understand it. It’s has a high barrier of entry (relatively speaking) and there aren’t really any good mobile apps. While I love the idea of the fed Ivette I just can’t imagine trying to explain it to everyone that’s isn’t tech savvy.