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Gaywallet (they/it) ( Gaywallet@beehaw.org ) A to Technology · 3 years ago

Pluralistic: “If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing”

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Gaywallet (they/it) ( Gaywallet@beehaw.org ) A to Technology · 3 years ago
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Pluralistic: “If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing” (08 Dec 2023) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
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    Operating a train is not creating a train. And media does not require resources to operate, so nothing is lost when digital media is used by someone without paying.

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      so nothing is lost when digital media is used by someone without paying.

      Using, no. Acquiring, yes.

      • t3rmit3 ( t3rmit3@beehaw.org ) 
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        No, nothing was lost when the copy was acquired, because copying does not remove the original. Literally, nothing is lost.

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          Lost sales are considered damages, so yes something is lost.

          EDIT: This is worse than arguing with SovCits.

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            Bruh, no one in here is arguing about legality, we’re arguing about morality, and no one but corporate shills buy into “potential sales” having value.

            You’re trying to argue against what people just fundamentally, intuitively understand; copyright is a legal construct (not a moral one) that is 99% bullshit.

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              Bruh, no one in here is arguing about legality

              What are you talking about? That’s literally the entire point of the article and this comment section.

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                Now you’re the one being obtuse, unless you’re claiming that you’re actually arguing that you can be charged with theft, which you can’t be, because legally, copyright infringement isn’t theft.

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                Yes, but then everyone started talking about morality.

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            What if you were never going to buy it?

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