• I guess I’m biased as someone who started on Skyrim, but that’s my point of comparison for games anymore. Fallout 3 was awesome, but honestly when FO4 came out, going back to play FO3 was hard due to how clunky it was in comparison. I know FO4 fell flat with it’s character decisions and voiced protagonist but it really didn’t ruin the game like it did for lots of people.

    Disclosure: I never finished the earlier TES games, because Skyrim coddled me I guess. lol

    • I’m biased in the opposite way since I started with Fallout New Vegas, but to me FO3 wasn’t THAT good either. It’s a good game, but its narrative design is still mediocre. FO4 was a really good upgrade in terms of gunplay, but I hated the story, side quests and the changes to the perks system.

      To me, Bethesda games feel like big worlds with lots of quests and items, but completely flat narratively and thematically/philosophically.