•  Zworf   ( @Zworf@beehaw.org ) 
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    310 months ago

    I dont think capitalism is even the whole tree. Its actually greed and selfishness which needs to go.

    This is because capitalism glorifies greed and selfishness and considers it the primary driver or human behaviour. Which it isn’t for everyone. Many of us leftists vote left despite it not being in our personal financial beat interests. Sharing is caring etc.

    Unfortunately the system is so damn rigged in favour of the multi billionaires.

    • I think capitalism favors greed and selfishness because greedy, selfish people have corrupted an otherwise useful idea. I dont think the original iteration was bad. We just left the door to the machine room ajar and a bunch of trolls laid some cables to steal power from our generator. Actually a very fitting metaphor. The sad part is that we‘re still trying to agree on the fact that someone is stealing energy.

      If you have seen lord of the rings, society is the ents, discussing endlessly if the hobbits are actually hobbits or orcs while their forest is being cut down en masse. Thats how I view humanity atm.

      •  Zworf   ( @Zworf@beehaw.org ) 
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        210 months ago

        I don’t agree. Capitalism is and has always been about greed. It’s why people invest, to get maximum profits and externalise all the negative side-effects.

        I think capitalism works if it’s balanced with socialism and strongly restricted by law as we used to do in the Netherlands and some EU countries still do. Unfortunately the Netherlands was lost to the neoliberals and now to the fascists :( But luckily I don’t live there anymore.

        • I can see how you arrive at this conclusion. Not sure I necessarily follow it since I invest (and always have) in things I believe in. Buying additional plates is an investment in having guests over for example.

          But I‘m also neurologically different from most peeps. The folks that invest without empathy fall into two categories in my head: the ignorant and the evil. The ignorant need to be educated, by force if necessary. The evil need to be stopped.

          Still, I can see that capitalism has become corrupted and needs to go. It’s too complicated for everyone to understand its side effects. Maybe even for me. But I still think its people born or raised without a conscience that will corrupt anything we build. Those need to be stopped as well.