From my understanding federation is having services be able to communicate with one another. If my understanding is wrong can you correct me or explain it further.

Also what is going on with defederating lemmy?

Thx

  • Just an fyi, defederation doesn’t mean you as a user can’t see any content from a given instance or vice versa. It’s more like from the time of defederation, users on the other Lemmy can’t be seen commenting or posting on your Lemmy. I believe there are other consequences too, but it’s not as straightforward as a ban.

    Defederation is a feature, not a bug. Lemmy was designed with the idea that instances could be more specific in thier content, so for your lemmy to defederate from a Ukraine war footage instance might not be a condemnation, so much as a curation decision.

    Think of it like, an instance has the potential to be either a reddit alternative or a collection of related subreddits.

    • yeah, I think beehaw is in the right to decide this part of feature and it’s up to the server admins. User can choose how they want to respond to that as well and I’ve seen different reaction as well.

      If anyone wants to see just how hard it is to maintain lemmy in current state, just hop over to “All” and set the sorting to “New”. For the record, during the past couple days, I already blocked 14 bot accounts and 9 community that used bots. I had to because other wise I can’t discovery communities I might have interested in when browsing “All”. And that’s also after some work that was put in by the lemmy.ca admin.

      And, if you don’t want all the drama, you can always spin up your instance or join a less populated server.

      • Or in this case, it is an ego driven crybaby fest because someone got jealous other instances got big.

        i don’t see how this would logically follow—wouldn’t our course of action if we wanted this to be something like opening registrations? we very much don’t have a shortage of people clamoring to get in here—our backlog is 4,500—and if anything we’re worried about too many people, not too few. we simply have no interest in growth at all costs, and we were… honestly pretty fine with being a 700-user instance before the big blowup here. certainly it’d have been less stressful, lol

    • It basically cuts communication altogether, no posts comments or anything moves either way. With other fedi software like mastodon you can limit or suspend the domain of the other instance but I believe with Lemmy/kbin it’s all or nothing.

      • That’s just a limitation of the current implementation though, there is no reason it couldn’t be improved. When the admins explained their decision they mentioned that part of the reason for the blunt action is the lack of more fine grained tools.

        It’s early days, tools will improve.

    • It’s not a complete ban, but it does mean that you’ll stop updating with new posts and comments. Users from elsewhere won’t see any new content on their copy of a beehaw post, and you won’t see any new content from a Defederated instance.