• And get caught on everything.

      I can’t be bothered with the inconvenience of wires. Bluetooth quality is good enough for what I need it for, and the convenience of simply putting them on gives me sound is hard to beat.

      I have a pair of noise-canceling Bluetooth headphones (not buds) from 2008 that still work. Battery life isn’t what it was, but whatever - they work fine for how I use them (as one pair of several). I could replace the battery if I felt like it, just not worth the effort.

      But I get that some people prefer the wired for their use-case.

      • The simple point is, no one forces you to use wires. Bluetooth has been a thing for decades.

        But basically every (yes some exceptions) company that makes phones forced you to use wireless ones.

        And in the case of Fairphone it is just simply hypocritical.

        • And in the case of Fairphone it is just simply hypocritical.

          I agree. I get that they’re a business and all but I haven’t seen a legitimate explanation for them removing headphone jacks and, like every other manufacturer, simultaneously introducing expensive Bluetooth ones.

            • YUP! I’m sorry, Apple earned more money than Spotify purely based on their airpod market. I refuse to believe otherwise.

              If they truly cared about repairability/maintainability they’d give me a headphone jack phone with a replaceable module in case it wears down.

              I freaking hate dongles, I always have one when I don’t need one and can never find one when I don’t. They randomly don’t work or I don’t know if this AliExpress one I bought is actually stealing my data. Just give a built-in jack, please!

    • Yep. I refuse to buy a FairPhone for this simple reason: I hate bluetooth. It means I have to buy a new expensive device to get audio quality that’s worse than before and requires batteries again. Fuck that.

      I also find it ridiculous that they call themselves “fair” but making bluetooth buds probably increases pain and suffering, because more materials have to be used to make them than a simple jack headphone.

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        I don’t know about the fairness of this particular company but by that rationale nothing can ever be fair, just by existing we increase the suffering. Its how the world is.

        Think headphones jacks don’t cause suffering at some point in the chain?

        Not that I’m disagreeing, just not sure how things would get named under this specific scheme.

        Does it assume that it’s generally understood that everything is a little harmful in some way, so as long as you don’t claim otherwise, it’s cool or would everything need to be measured on some sort of average harmfulness scale and then include the rating in the title.

        Like “Horrendously harmful Apple” or “Mildly harmful Colgate”

        A bit hyperbolic perhaps.

        Genuinely not trying to start a fight, actually interested in what you think would be a good way of doing this, as I’ve occasionally pondered it myself and never come up with a good answer.

        Incidentally, this is one of the core plotlines to later seasons of “The good place”

    • People keep whining about this but honestly people who listen to music with wired headphonea are a small fraction of a 1%. And they probably have this data from their telemetry.

    • I have yet to use a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle for my phone that hasn’t gone bust in my pocket in a few months. Probably time to see about a cable for the earphones that terminates in USB-C on the phone end, but that was difficult to search for.

      I love my wired ones, and have been nursing some BT earbuds for years, but it’s hard to use wired and not to move to BT anymore without buying a phone specifically for the 3.5mm jack.