Why not buy one decent pen “shell” and then just buy the plastic tube with the tip and the ink afterwards?

I know many companies use pens for marketing but still, they could apply this too and also stand up for the environment while still do marketing.

    • How so?

      There’s only one situation where a ballpoint is better suited than a fountain pen: writing checks. Fountain pens are not good for situations where you have to press hard enough to create a pressure duplicate. Thankfully, check-writing is going slowly extinct.

      There are many pens besides the Pilot Vanishing Point that are just as convenient; why do you say that ballpoints are more practical?

      • They’re also better for writing on bad or dirty paper, non-paper surfaces, and if you write in your hand instead of on a desk (the high pressure threshold makes mistakes less visible for me).

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        Try out the FPR Ultra Flex EF nibs. I’ve got one of them on a Jinhao x750. It’s not the most practical (it can railroad and go dry), but the flex is so worth it.

      •  667   ( @667@lemmy.radio ) 
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        I had a Monteverde retractable rollerball I absolutely loved which was well-suited to writing through carbon forms.

        Like most things, many people don’t want to be inconvenienced with the ritual of refilling their pens; a ritual many fountain pen owners actually enjoy; they don’t care about the granular control over color. Blue is blue. Black is black. But for us, a particular shade of cornflower blue is what brings us joy.

        • Good points!

          Many FP lovers refill from bottles, but it isn’t necessary. Cartridges are easy to use, well-suited for travel when you may run dry in the middle of a trip, and TSA doesn’t give you grief about them.

          Again, my point to OP was that there’s very little practical advantage to ball points over fountain pens; if you’re using cartridges, they’re not much better for the environment, but you can do things like use a converter most of the time and carry cartridges as back-up. Fountain pens are fantastic writing implements.

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        There’s only one situation where a ballpoint is better suited than a fountain pen: writing checks. Fountain pens are not good for situations where you have to press hard enough to create a pressure duplicate.

        That, and the ink can handle a bit of water unlike that of a fountain pen (unless you use India ink but then good luck if you have a leak and ruin your bag or shirt because nothing can get that stuff out)

        PS The last time I used a check was in the 90s 😆 Do people still use them where you are? I couldn’t even get one from my bank if I wanted to.

    • Sure, if you’re a mechanic that’s writing on greasy paper while standing. The same ink and delivery system make it far worse if you’re actually sitting behind a desk and writing for prolonged time.

    •  apis   ( @apis@beehaw.org ) 
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      There’s a type of Japanese felt tip which writes somewhere between a fountain pen and a ballpoint, and there are versions that can be filled with ink. They don’t need all the faffing around of fountain pens, and don’t dent the paper like a ballpoint.