What made them mad:

“Man I’m not happy with Biden winning the nomination. I wish I was Bernie.”

“Well we can get Trump out of office and then you can push him to the left.”

“Fair enough, a moldy ham sandwich is better than Trump. Biden can string words together so that’s possible.”

[One presidential election and mid-term later.]

“So Biden hasn’t pushed Congress on most of his campaign promises, and he’s enabled racist policies Trump wanted to try and win moderates. No abortion, no DREAMers, no minimum wage increases, no queer protection, but they can find time to ban hoodies in Congress. Not to mention ignoring voters who care about Ukraine and Palestine. It feels like Biden isn’t great for Americans, he’s just slightly better than Trump.”

“Why are you so anti-Biden? Are you some kind of fake leftist or a Russian agent pretending to be American?”

“No? I’m trying to push him left. I’m saying he’s not doing things for most of the people who voted for him to be better. His biggest actions are done by appointments, by him to the FTC and FCC. Not a lot of bills passed.”

“I think you just hate what Democracy is, he’s not a king.”

“Right. But Republicans can pass without issue, and Democrats want to work with them instead of getting progressive voters.”

“You’re biased and nitpicking, so I win.”

  •  zea   ( @zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
    9•5 months ago

    I can’t say I’ve seen that sort of person. Am I just lucky?

    I see all this “stop telling us to love Biden”, but the only other side I see is “yeah he’s terrible, but he’s slightly less terrible so this’ll be slightly less bad overall”.

    At this point, I don’t think threatening to not vote for him will move him left because I don’t think he thinks he could really do anything in time to sway the polls. And idk how to pressure him in office.

    For anyone very invested in this, it’s probably much more impactful to focus your energy on local politics, which can change the party pressures Biden feels. You might even have a choice in your local elections that isn’t complete garbage! Though I would say it’s probably a good idea to still vote for Biden, because there’s a chance to mildly sway him.

    •  within_epsilon   ( @within_epsilon@beehaw.org ) 
      10•5 months ago

      The solace most liberals provide to anarchist is to vote locally. Voting will not change the nature of the state. The state will continue providing violence to defend the owners.

      Vote in the elections you are allowed. Better still, build horizontal power through direct action and mutual aid. Be ready for the conflict horizontal power creates with hierarchical power.

      Solidarity friend.