• Yup, that’s terrible. PSC’s still have a long way to go and we need to find encapsulation technologies to extend their life more, but where they shine is that they should be dirt cheap. If they cost 1/4 of silicon based cells, but only last 1/2 as long, that’s still a massive improvement.

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        I feel like I should clarify because the article didn’t do a good job at explaining: perovskite is a kind of structure, not a particular material. They have the generic formula ABX3 (where A and B are different kinds of cations and X is some kind of anion), although not everything with the formula is a perovskite.

        Simple perovskites include some lead-containing materials like lead titanate, but also lead-free materials like barium or strontium titanate. And in general there are a lot of different kinds of perovskites, especially because some of the structural sites can be filled by small organic molecules instead of pure elements.

        Edit: I think I was misreading the journal article before my edit (it’s early I’m not awake yet lol). I had said it looks like they’re using a lead-based perovskite but actually I can’t tell what exactly they’re using with a quick skim. The article is very review-y, the formula I thought they were using is from another paper. I’ll have a more thorough look later.

        Edit 2: It’s a review paper, and the way it was described in the linked news article is kinda misleading. Its not specifically about this company’s particular composition or architecture.

          • Yeah as far as I can tell without a close read of the paper – which I just don’t have time to do – it’s a review paper that just happens to have been written by some of the people involved in this commercial endeavor. (I imagine they don’t want to share their proprietary composition and architecture.) It seems like the reporter covering this didn’t catch the distinction.

            To my previous comment, this means we really have no idea if they’re using a lead-containing composition or not. Like I mentioned, perovskites are a large class of materials. Since the review paper has a section on the challenges around lead containing compositions I’d hope they’re not using lead, but who knows 🤷‍♂️

    • If that figure is true then yes that seems awful. It stopped me to look into it and at least according to Wikipedia ”In July 2015, major hurdles were that the largest perovskite solar cell was only the size of a fingernail and that they degraded quickly in moist environments.However, researchers from EPFL published in June 2017, a work successfully demonstrating large scale perovskite solar modules with no observed degradation over one year (short circuit conditions). Now, together with other organizations, the research team aims to develop a fully printable perovskite solar cell with 22% efficiency and with 90% of performance after ageing tests.”

      So maybe these particular cells aren’t great, but there is hope that it’s not an intrinsic unsolvable issue.