Nobody should be allowed to say Allah without protest. If somebody says Allah in casual conversation, they should be met with scoffs, eye-rolls, and dirty looks. Muslims should say ilah instead.
While I typically try to avoid divisive comments in these light-hearted communities, this is a fairly informative one, especially in the context of etymology.
We should also not be condoning scoffing at someone based on their understanding. Perhaps these could be opportunities to educate people that are unfamiliar with the differences.
I am very happy for Muslims to talk about their ilah. But when they say Allah, they are choosing to say the other gods are fake for no reason. We could be having a completely unrelated conversation about, say, Ramadan, and the Muslim just has to say “by the way your gods are fake” in a single word just to be an asshole. It’s rude. It’s mean. It’s unnecessary.
I think a lot of people downvoted my comment because they don’t understand Arabic etymology and they think I’m being Islamophobic. But this isn’t about Islam, it’s about the way many Muslims choose to talk about every other religion. And yes, many Muslims don’t know the etymology of the word either. Which is why they should be educated and told to do better. Allah is a slur. We should make it clear it’s not acceptable to say in polite company.
I also hate it when Christians choose to use “god” as a proper noun. I’ve got in lots of fights with people on Lemmy about that.
No woman, anywhere in the world, should ever be required to wear any of these. Humans should be respected to make their own personal choices.
Sure, but many women choose to wear these and that’s fine if that’s what they want to do.
Choose to because otherwise they get kicked from the family?
I would argue those are the minority of cases.
They aren’t.
It’s literally enforced by the government
I didn’t know my government, the UK, was enforcing people wearing religious clothing. TIL.
That’s a very obtuse response and the governments I’m referencing are obvious.
I’m having a discussion on the usage in general, you and the other replies have been highlighting minority cases.
I wonder if you’re so passionate about this issue, what you’re doing to further women’s rights in these countries you have issue with?
Choose and Required are opposites.
I see plenty of Muslim women without them, indicating it’s a choice for most.
Not in countries controlled by religion.
So the issue isn’t religion its authoritarianism in these countries.
Perhaps, we should fight against that rather than the garments in question, no?
Those countries are authoritarian because of religion
Exactly! The only reason religion exists is to control the population.
I don’t believe you.
You just gotta have faith! O_o
Nobody should be allowed to say Allah without protest. If somebody says Allah in casual conversation, they should be met with scoffs, eye-rolls, and dirty looks. Muslims should say ilah instead.
While I typically try to avoid divisive comments in these light-hearted communities, this is a fairly informative one, especially in the context of etymology.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilah
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah#Etymology
We should also not be condoning scoffing at someone based on their understanding. Perhaps these could be opportunities to educate people that are unfamiliar with the differences.
I am very happy for Muslims to talk about their ilah. But when they say Allah, they are choosing to say the other gods are fake for no reason. We could be having a completely unrelated conversation about, say, Ramadan, and the Muslim just has to say “by the way your gods are fake” in a single word just to be an asshole. It’s rude. It’s mean. It’s unnecessary.
I think a lot of people downvoted my comment because they don’t understand Arabic etymology and they think I’m being Islamophobic. But this isn’t about Islam, it’s about the way many Muslims choose to talk about every other religion. And yes, many Muslims don’t know the etymology of the word either. Which is why they should be educated and told to do better. Allah is a slur. We should make it clear it’s not acceptable to say in polite company.
I also hate it when Christians choose to use “god” as a proper noun. I’ve got in lots of fights with people on Lemmy about that.
Allah damnit
Gross
Mā schā’ Allāh
There’s more than one, you ding dong. Why do you have to start a debate about the number of gods out of nowhere?