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Spectre ( Confidant6198@lemmy.ml ) M to Comics@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

“Communism bad”

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“Communism bad”

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Spectre ( Confidant6198@lemmy.ml ) M to Comics@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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      Ah, yes, the United States famously only interferes in fascist countries and not for benefit of plutocrats.

      Also, which demsoc countries are you talking about where the means of production are controlled by the working class?

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          You don’t seem to know what democratic socialism means.

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              Good for you. Does the working class control the means of production in your country?

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                Look man, does it ever? Did you know that it’s impossible to do so until we find a way to automate administrative duties?

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                  Do you think clerical workers aren’t workers or what the fuck even is it you’re saying?

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                  Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

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                  You seem to be conflating anarcho-syndicalism with all other forms of socialism.

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              Is that socialist party in power? Is it actually socialist, or does it just call itself that? Because a lot of European “socialist” parties aren’t; most are liberal social welfare parties at best.

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      What is “Democratic Socialism” in your eyes?

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        The kind that can be voted on in fair elections.

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          So every AES state is also Democratic Socialist too.

          Or do you mean Socialism established through liberal reform? That’s very rare, only really established in countries like Chile under Allende, before the US supported a coup to overthrow him.

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            That’s underselling it. Before he was even president, the CIA kidnapped and killed the Commander in Chief of the Chilean army for refusing to send the army during his inauguration. There was political and economical warfare for fear of a “functioning socialist government” in South America. According to Nixon “the choice of government by the Chileans was unacceptable”.

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            See that little juke yall do by bringing up all the different variants by name? Three responses to my comments, all the same. “You must be confusing their socialism with my socialism”

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