The sad thing is that even if you don’t give a shit about other people, it would still be beneficial to make sure everyone is taken care of.
Imagine if we didn’t have to worry about people stealing our bikes or breaking into our basement because everyone had enough money to not have to steal stuff.
Or if we didn’t have to worry about our kids getting a good enough job because even if they follow their passion their jobs would still pay enough to have a good life.
Like everything in our life there is a golden middle. You can not have zero social safety net, and you can not (at least yet, or at least it is sub-optimal for human development) have absolutely everything taken care off. But where is this middle is is the question different people answer differently.
Yeah, I’m not asking for literal handouts (except for people who are unable to work because of illness/disabilities). I’m just asking for wages to be enough to rent a reasonably sized apartment close to work, with enough free time to raise their kids.
I’m sure most people would prefer having a job to stealing stuff.
people really seem to not get how complex this stuff is. you can’t force people into a better life.
plenty of homeless simple choose to live life on the streets. they do not want intervention or care. they want to steal and do drugs. these core set of people is what drives the ‘image’ of homelessness.
most homeless people are actually just in a temporary situation and will use the resources to get back on their feet. but certain people refuse to help themselves and won’t ever accept help no matter what is offered.
I’m don’t think you can say that in general. They might not want the intervention and care they are offered, which usually comes with strings attached. Eg. homeless shelters in my city require you to arrive at a specific time, leave at a specific time, and you can’t bring alcohol. Plenty of non-homeless people would be kicked out of their home if they had to stick to those rules.
The sad thing is that even if you don’t give a shit about other people, it would still be beneficial to make sure everyone is taken care of.
Imagine if we didn’t have to worry about people stealing our bikes or breaking into our basement because everyone had enough money to not have to steal stuff.
Or if we didn’t have to worry about our kids getting a good enough job because even if they follow their passion their jobs would still pay enough to have a good life.
Like everything in our life there is a golden middle. You can not have zero social safety net, and you can not (at least yet, or at least it is sub-optimal for human development) have absolutely everything taken care off. But where is this middle is is the question different people answer differently.
Yeah, I’m not asking for literal handouts (except for people who are unable to work because of illness/disabilities). I’m just asking for wages to be enough to rent a reasonably sized apartment close to work, with enough free time to raise their kids.
I’m sure most people would prefer having a job to stealing stuff.
exactly.
people really seem to not get how complex this stuff is. you can’t force people into a better life.
plenty of homeless simple choose to live life on the streets. they do not want intervention or care. they want to steal and do drugs. these core set of people is what drives the ‘image’ of homelessness.
most homeless people are actually just in a temporary situation and will use the resources to get back on their feet. but certain people refuse to help themselves and won’t ever accept help no matter what is offered.
I’m don’t think you can say that in general. They might not want the intervention and care they are offered, which usually comes with strings attached. Eg. homeless shelters in my city require you to arrive at a specific time, leave at a specific time, and you can’t bring alcohol. Plenty of non-homeless people would be kicked out of their home if they had to stick to those rules.
people would still steal bikes and break into shit.
theft is driven by drug use mostly, not by poverty.