I’ll keep this short and sweet. Some random guy on the internet compiled together and summarized a bunch of climate research papers analyzing global trends and a bunch of different slow actors that are all going to kick in soon like the permafrost in Russia or the polar ice caps etc.

While I have not yet gone through the sources the author links and quotes extensively, this still has me extremely worried and I think that unless society somehow drastically changes and devotes a significant effort in doing something about it, we’re all going to die within half a century.

I’m sorry for bringing doomerism into a safe space like Beehaw, but I’m scared and I can’t sleep.

Also I’m not going to link the document in question because the author goes on a rant about billionaires and greed, and while I haven’t decided whether or not I agree I’m not sure the tone fits the community.

Sorry again and have a good one !

  • Not sure if this helps at all, but you’re not alone: I feel a sense of dread every time I find myself holding an empty plastic container.

    It might feel like you’re sticking your head in the sand, but what I do – and what I suggest for people suffering from climate anxiety – is actively avoid reading reports like that. Sure, they’re informative (and it’s important to stay informed), but at the end of the day it’s not worth your mental health.

    If there’s one thing we know about the problem of climate change at this point (despite what massive corporate contributors have tried to tell us) it’s that you as an individual cannot fix it and you did not contribute very much to it. Plus: you already know it’s bad. Those statistics are meant for people whose minds and behavior will be changed by them.

    Instead of reading reports that are informative (but unhelpful), spend time researching who to vote for, how to get involved with organizations who are making change, and which companies are truly focused on sustainability so you can vote with your money.

    Climate change is an unfortunate reality and you’ll never feel good about it, but you can feel better if you’re focusing on what you can change.

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      Thank you for the advice. I was planning on getting more informed on the topic so as to be able to talk to others about it better, because right now I think it would come across as incohesive rambling.

      As to the part about me as an individual not being able to fix anything, while on one hand that is true and I already do what I can personally, the one thing I can try to do is to get more people involved because it feels like we’re a train hurtling towards a cliff and two people on board even know where we’re heading.

      To be honest I am quite young and now it feels like most of the meaning in my life is ruined, and I don’t think I can go back to how I was before. My plan for now is making trying my best to avert what’s coming my life quest, but I don’t know how that will make me.

      I’m sorry for ranting but I guess I am quite emontionally distressed now, which is kind of the first time this happens to me and I don’t know how to process it.

      Thanks for your time and sorry again!

      • Hey, no need to apologize! This is something I’ve had a tough time with for a while, so it’s also helpful for me to articulate some of my thoughts to someone else.

        As far as getting other people interested: that’s a fantastic reason to spend time learning about a topic! Good on you for taking an educational stance on something so important.

        The fact that you’re new to this information about climate change does change (slightly) what I was saying previously: I’m in my 30s and I’ve been reading report after report for over a decade and only recently decided to avoid them.

        The fact that you’re new to this is challenging because it’s important for you to learn about climate change, but it’s not exactly a topic that inspires hope. I’m not sure which specific report you’re referring to, but you do need to remember that there are a lot of reports out there that are really overblown and sensationalized.

        Climate change is definitely a threat, but environmental science is also ridiculously complicated. It’s easy for people with little understanding of a topic to make commentary on it (and sound convincing because they’re using technical terminology!) But they may not be qualified to make the claims they’re making.

        As you educate yourself, I’d stick to intro-level educational resources from universities and science organizations – they tend to be less “doom and gloom,” more focused on solutions, and they avoid making over-the-top claims.

        Also, remember that climate change is, well, change. And change is scary. But the fact that the future is going to be different doesn’t mean that everything is going to become terrible one day and be terrible forever until we all die in under 100 years (which as many people have said in this thread, is extremely unlikely.) The future will have good times and bad times, just like there are now. But this kind of change means that we need to adapt and be more resilient than ever: luckily, humans are excellent at adaptation.

        So don’t let this report ruin your life: you’re right that you won’t be the same again after learning about climate change, but that’s normal! It’s a part of learning and growing. “Ignorance is bliss” is a phrase for a reason: it really does suck sometimes learning about the world, because not everything about the world is blissful. But now you’re going to take climate change seriously and help others do the same, and that’s a powerful thing.

        So again, focus on what you can control, maybe find some less intense resources to learn from, educate your peers so they can help move things in the right direction, and take a deep breath. You’re going to be okay!

    • I feel a sense of dread every time I find myself holding an empty plastic container.

      Niche thing to break out given the context, but the best purchase I’ve made in the past decade is a SodaStream, a couple of extra carbonating bottles and an inline water filter for the kitchen sink.

      I didn’t realize how much of my aggregate shopping mass came from paying usurious prices to have filtered municipal water from somewhere else delivered via fossil fuel to a store so I could pick each bottle up once from the shelf, again from my cart to checkout, again to get it back in the cart, again to put it in the vehicle, again from the vehicle to the pile outside the front door, again to bring it inside for final staging, again to put it in the fridge, and finally, again, to drink it. And 99 cents for the privilege.

      (It’s now two cents a litre thanks to a 10-pound tank + adapter.)

      Being easier on the planet can save time, money and effort, even though it looks somehow less convenient on the surface.

        • A tank lasts me about nine months when working full-time out of the apartment (3-4L/day), closer to six if I’m working from home. As to a specific adapter … I bought this one in 2021, so of course it’s no longer listed.

          That adapter was the second one I bought, not having realized there was a hole in the line on the first one I ordered. Sixty inches of hose works perfectly for 1L when the tank is full for charging the line, closing the tank and then carbonating. Later on, I leave it open for anywhere from a second to whatever it takes as it gets empty. I probably don’t need to now, but after venting more than 75% of my tank several times before determining the problem, I’m happier to err on the side of caution.

          For this use, I’d recommend a tank with a siphon tube unless you want to mount your tank upside down to get the last of it. I spent around $135 (in January 2020) locally for the new tank and first fill at a brewing-supply store and found the cheapest refills ain’t there … a welding outfit refills my tank for $18 in about 10 minutes. Most places wanted to keep it overnight because of the tube, so that’s also worth bearing in mind.