although this is unlikely to substantially and directly impact us and is a more immediate concern for Mastodon and similar fediverse software, we’ve signed the Anti-Meta Fedi Pact as a matter of principle. that pact pledges the following:
i am an instance admin/mod on the fediverse. by signing this pact, i hereby agree to block any instances owned by meta should they pop up on the fediverse. project92 is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity
the maintainer of the site is currently a little busy and seems to manually add signatures so we may not appear on there for several days but here’s a quick receipt that we did indeed sign it.
It’s decentralised and open-source, but not federated, as it works on its own isolated protocol (similar to Matrix)
Matrix is also federated… having your own protocol is not related to the concept of federation, which is simply the property of having the ability to run your own servers and join a network of other servers which share a protocol.
Yes ,and no.
It depends on how you define both terms. If decentralised = federated, matrix is federated. But if federation is defined as a model of social network in which different servers based on different platforms interact through the use of the same protocol(S) (decentralisation + interoperability), being isolated, Matrix doesn’t fit the definition.
Because Matrix doesn’t accept other platforms to enter its protocol, nor plans on adding it’s commonly not considered to be truly federated
Matrix does. There’s multiple different projects that implement Matrix’s protocols: https://matrix.org/ecosystem/servers/
Those are still Matrix (platform) style servers.
You don’t have something like Mastodon vs Pixelfed vs Lemmy in terms of diversity of products.
Those all speak ActivityPub.
But if you want to put some weird UI to say that it’s federated (which is not necessary to be a federated service). You have Cerulean : https://matrix.org/blog/2020/12/18/introducing-cerulean/
I know they are ActiVItyPub based. I’m talking about the diversity of platforms, not which protocol they use.
What do you mean by this?
I mean that the word federated does not necessarily mean different UI. And most of the ActivityPub diversity you ascribe is just a UI change.
If the UI was what made it federated then I guess I’d be entirely possible to say Twitter is federated because they have tons of different UIs thanks to various apps.
Does this make sense?
The thing is, I never talked about UI.
Server =/= UI =/= fork =/= platform
Twitter is completely centralised because all the data is inside of a unique server and cannot interact with other social media platforms. You cannot talk to someone on tiktok through twitter.
You can federate, through the use of plug-ins, on/with Wordpress and (soon) Tumblr, but neither are decentralised, as each concentrates its data in a sole server.